[dmassey]

Anybody had one of these to be stubborn to get out? I was changing all the liquids oout in the Ultra yesterday eveing and was down to the primary. The screws were extrememly tight. Weren't nearly this tight on the Heritage. Anyhow got them all out except one that just wouldn't turn lose so long story short, they came from the dealership and picked it up this morning. I sent the Amsoil with the guy, told him what I wanted done and the bike's gone. Then a few minutes later, the salesman called me to get the straight form me as to exactly what I wanted done and put me through to the shop manager which I appreciated. I told them that since they had it to go ahead with the 1K service plus do the recall on the gas tank.

[Devolution]

This happened to me on my 99 Electra Glide. I had to give one the the screws an attitude adjustment with a dead blow hammer, a couple of taps on the screw head did the trick. I was going to replace the screws and primary cover anyways.

Originally Posted by dmassey

Anybody had one of these to be stubborn to get out? I was changing all the liquids oout in the Ultra yesterday eveing and was down to the primary. The screws were extrememly tight. Weren't nearly this tight on the Heritage. Anyhow got them all out except one that just wouldn't turn lose so long story short, they came from the dealership and picked it up this morning. I sent the Amsoil with the guy, told him what I wanted done and the bike's gone. Then a few minutes later, the salesman called me to get the straight form me as to exactly what I wanted done and put me through to the shop manager which I appreciated. I told them that since they had it to go ahead with the 1K service plus do the recall on the gas tank.

[FLHTbiker]

My guess is they probably used to much lock tight and torque it down to far. There is a tool that can be used to help release stubborn screws if you have one. You would also have to have a Torx bit that would fit it correctly. My 09 cover cam off pretty easy when I removed mine to change the fluids and to also adjust the clutch.

[dmassey]

Got a call from the Service Manager about 4:15 this evening saying that my bike was about ready so we went up there to get it. In additon to the regular 1K service they did the work on getting the screw out, replaced the derby gasket, screw & washer plus the gas tank recall plus a great clean-up and the total was $149.80 so I didn;t feel hurt by that. The tranny sure seems to shift better with the Amsoil High Stress 75-140. It just felt good to be back on the bike.

[chucktx]

not bad!!!! you may have a decent stealer!!!!

[FLHTbiker]

Good deal, glad to hear a dealer treated someone well.

[dmassey]

Not sure if I'll get to try it today or not but I would like to go to the Harley Shop and visit. The receptionist always has coffee & usually some sort of cake, cookies or something like that - no/low calorie of course.

[hotroadking]

Not trying to be a jerk but
What did they do for $150?

It's an under warranty bike right?

The recall is free
My Dealer returns the bike clean at no extra labor charge
when it's worked on (bathed and dryed)

You supplied the oil,

How much time did they charge you for, at $70 an hour looks
like they charged two hours labor to you, and they get paid
by HD for the recall so there should be no charge on that, they
are double dipping on the time from HD for the recall which takes about
an hour as I had mine done.

I would say unless there are some parts in that total you have a stealer
not a dealer....

Was that fluid ever changed before?
If that bolt was stuck it's a warranty issue
if you didn't stick it by putting it in with
red loctite.

You should have left with a zero labor bill
and only parts costs for non warranty parts.
Even the screw should have been covered
only the gasket would be your cost.

IMO...

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by hotroadking

Not trying to be a jerk but
What did they do for $150?

It's an under warranty bike right?

The recall is free
My Dealer returns the bike clean at no extra labor charge
when it's worked on (bathed and dryed)

You supplied the oil,

How much time did they charge you for, at $70 an hour looks
like they charged two hours labor to you, and they get paid
by HD for the recall so there should be no charge on that, they
are double dipping on the time from HD for the recall which takes about
an hour as I had mine done.

I would say unless there are some parts in that total you have a stealer
not a dealer....

Was that fluid ever changed before?
If that bolt was stuck it's a warranty issue
if you didn't stick it by putting it in with
red loctite.

You should have left with a zero labor bill
and only parts costs for non warranty parts.
Even the screw should have been covered
only the gasket would be your cost.

IMO...

No Charge parts or labor for the recall kit for the gas tank.
Screw and washer $1 - I suppose I could fuss at that but........
Gasket service kit (probably for the primary) $4.95
Air Filter element (part of service - although according to the book, it's washable, but then when yu wash it, it takes a while for it to dry) $24.95
Spark Plugs ( I got my old ones back for a spare set) $7.90
Labor for the 1K Service check 1 1/2 hours - $74

That's about the same that it was for the Heritage so by and large I'm satisfied.

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by dmassey

No Charge parts or labor for the recall kit for the gas tank.
Screw and washer $1 - I suppose I could fuss at that but........
Gasket service kit (probably for the primary) $4.95
Air Filter element (part of service - although according to the book, it's washable, but then when yu wash it, it takes a while for it to dry) $24.95
Spark Plugs ( I got my old ones back for a spare set) $7.90
Labor for the 1K Service check 1 1/2 hours - $74

That's about the same that it was for the Heritage so by and large I'm satisfied.

I forgot the other things that they usually do like adjust the clutch and drive belt and I'm sure I left some things out. I went for a ride this morning and the tranny is very smooth. less clunk to low gear and neutral is easy to find.

[sarge7]

Ya run into that problem again with a stubbon screw - you might want to pick up a impact driver (hand held) it will accept any standard bit and only requires a small tap with a hammer to break loose any bolt or nut. They run about 12 to 15 bucks and come in real handy; most of them have a selection of bits included and are packed in their own carry case.

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by sarge7

Ya run into that problem again with a stubbon screw - you might want to pick up a impact driver (hand held) it will accept any standard bit and only requires a small tap with a hammer to break loose any bolt or nut. They run about 12 to 15 bucks and come in real handy; most of them have a selection of bits included and are packed in their own carry case.

I have one and was going to use it but it uses larger bits (5/16) so I'll have to look for one that takes smaller bits.

[VYBR8ER]

More often than not I end up drilling the head off the screw. Once the pressure is releived the threads back right out. BTW the 1000 mile service is probably the most important service you will ever do to the bike. Steering head gets lubed and adjusted, spokes are tightened (big failure problem if you ride hard and don't adjust them) and all of the critical fastners get checked so you know the bike will stay together and all of the cables and belt get set back to factory spec since they've stretched.. You never know if the tech does all of the carded items, but if he does it takes about 2.5 hours and our labor is $105/hr. Seems like $150 was a very good deal!

[vinny g]

Originally Posted by dmassey

Anybody had one of these to be stubborn to get out? I was changing all the liquids oout in the Ultra yesterday eveing and was down to the primary. The screws were extrememly tight. Weren't nearly this tight on the Heritage. Anyhow got them all out except one that just wouldn't turn lose so long story short, they came from the dealership and picked it up this morning. I sent the Amsoil with the guy, told him what I wanted done and the bike's gone. Then a few minutes later, the salesman called me to get the straight form me as to exactly what I wanted done and put me through to the shop manager which I appreciated. I told them that since they had it to go ahead with the 1K service plus do the recall on the gas tank.

[vinny g]

run the bike let it heat up it helps then the next time you spin them out put a small dab of anti=seize on threads

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by vinny g

run the bike let it heat up it helps then the next time you spin them out put a small dab of anti=seize on threads

Changing out the oils while everything is hot is a good idea. I read somewhere that a quart of hot oil will hold a pound of dirt in supension.

[chucktx]

Originally Posted by dmassey

Changing out the oils while everything is hot is a good idea. I read somewhere that a quart of hot oil will hold a pound of dirt in supension.

i believe it is a quart of oil COULD hold a pound of dirt. if your bike holds 4 qts of oil and you have 4 pounds of dirt in there.....something is definatly wrong!!!!!

[FLHTbiker]

Doesn't dirt and oil make sludge.

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by chucktx

i believe it is a quart of oil could hold a pound of dirt. If your bike holds 4 qts of oil and you have 4 pounds of dirt in there.....something is definatly wrong!!!!!

10-4.

[dmassey]

Originally Posted by FLHTbiker

Doesn't dirt and oil make sludge.

But if it were synthetic, it would be a very high quality sludge..lol