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Jan 24th, 2010, 10:29 AM
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#1 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
HI
Am feeling a bit fed up today.
I bought a Big Sucker kit, because i thought from what I had been told on one of my earlier posts Recommended UK supplier post no.7
and from what I had read, that I could use the OEM chrome filter cover with the Big Sucker Kit.
I read the instructions stage by stage as I fitted the kit, BIG MISTAKE What I should have done is turn over and read the other side BEFORE I started....
It says on the other side NOTE: The OEM XL air cleaner cover will not work on any Big Sucker, Billet Sucker, Or Derby Sucker applications........
So what I want to know is this.. Is there a Big Sucker kit that WILL use the original cover?
It is to go on a 2004 883 Sportster. I want to keep the bike looking standard, with the 883 logo on the air filter cover.
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Jan 24th, 2010, 10:56 AM
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#2 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
have you tried to fit it and see why it wont fit?? some times it is just a very minor mod to get it to fit, and they would like to sell a filter cover. i actually use an old evo cover on mine....looks like the old panhead/knucklehead covers.....
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Jan 24th, 2010, 11:08 AM
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#3 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Screw holes are wrong. The centre of the Big Sucker filter has a single screw hole, and the 883 cover has two holes.
There is a frame that takes the OEM chrome cover on the outside of the original air filter unit. This has the same three hole pattern as on the outer panel of the filter element, so I could block off the middle hole on the airfilter, get longer bolts and spacers and bolt the frame to the back of the filter element and do it that way.....I think ...that is from memory this afternoon, i did try a few ways but nothing obvious.
it would be a bit of a bodge job, but it may work
That is why i was wondering if there was different kit available | |
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Jan 24th, 2010, 11:38 AM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
i believe they are all the same....the one i used only has the one hole in it and i used a short piece of fuel line to space it, and give it some give....
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Jan 24th, 2010, 11:48 AM
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#5 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
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Originally Posted by chucktx  ....the one i used only has the one hole in .. | When you say 'the one' are you referring to the external chrome cover or the actual filter unit?
My Chrome cover has two holes in it..from memory about 3 inch spacing...the cover is oval | |
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Jan 24th, 2010, 11:52 AM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
i am referring to the cover......a nice round cover with a single hole in the center. it screws into the actual filter. if i wanted to keep the stock cover, i would fab a plate the length i need. weld or drill it to accept two screws from the outer cover, drill a hole in the center to attach it to the filter housing. attach the bar to the filter. then attach the outer cover to the bar.........
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"FLAGS AND HANDLEBARS SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND"
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen." We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. | |
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Jan 24th, 2010, 12:06 PM
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#7 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
well, yes i could make something up, I have some stainless around , but i am getting very lazy, i alway stay and avoid doing my own fab unless I really have to | |
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Jan 25th, 2010, 05:32 AM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Neilp - The oval cover is sporty only and will require a mod. EVO covers are round and will fit without mods.
The strap idea is probably the way to go.
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Jan 25th, 2010, 10:51 AM
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#9 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
had a look at the strap idea this morning, but no go,
Even with no strap the cover does not cover all the filter, once I put a bar across it, it pushes the cover out far enough to expose the filter element half an inch, so if it rains it is going to get wet.
So for now I have re jetted the carb back to standard jets, and put the standard filter back on.
Tried the local dealer this morning for a standard round cover, but they have nothing.
No other dealers in Jersey who do any work on Harleys so will have to look at e-bay again
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Jan 25th, 2010, 05:26 PM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
the cover you are looking for is for an older evolution cruiser style......roadking/electraglide
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"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen." We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. | |
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Jan 25th, 2010, 05:28 PM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
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"FLAGS AND HANDLEBARS SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND"
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen." We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. | |
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Jan 26th, 2010, 12:07 AM
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#12 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Yes, that is the sort of cover, thanks, I'll keep an eye on that | |
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Jan 26th, 2010, 02:55 PM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Why not contact the mfg direct Arlen Ness
they have a contact us link, with email.
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Jan 26th, 2010, 03:43 PM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
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Originally Posted by chucktx | You can also pull the logo of the cover and have just a plain chrome cover.
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Jan 27th, 2010, 12:37 AM
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#15 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Thanks guys.
I did contact Arlen Ness, and the only thing they could suggest was a pre filter sock to, no mention of a cover from them.
I did manage to find that they do sell their own cast covers for the Stage 1 kit and they are on their site, although the bloke who answered the e-mail did not initially let me know about them.
I spoke to Phil at Concordia, and he can get me one but did say having the filter exposed a bit is not a worry and rain on it should not be a problem, so I may go back to plan A and make a bar and use the 883 original cover even if it leaves some of the filter exposed to the rain.
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Jan 27th, 2010, 07:34 AM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Phil is smart has a good rep
I would make a bar and run the stock cover over it...
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Jan 27th, 2010, 11:34 AM
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#17 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
I could always make a little sheet metal extension from the bar, over the top and front just to keep the worst of it from blowing in to the filter | |
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Jan 27th, 2010, 12:41 PM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Or ya coud put a petticoat on the back edge of the cover - ya know something in pink with purple polka dots. Then enter it has a custom in the local bike shows. It would get the ladies attention for sure.  | |
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Jan 27th, 2010, 01:15 PM
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#19 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
Hey yea, I got an industrial sowing machine for making sails and car covers etc, down the farm, so i reckon I could knock something up in pink | |
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Jan 27th, 2010, 08:01 PM
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| Re: Which Arlen Ness Big Sucker kit?
you guys crack me up!!!!!!!!!!!!
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