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Jul 8th, 2006, 11:44 AM
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#1 | | Newbie
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| I was just wanting to know how hard it is to change the oil on my bike. I have never done one before and didn't know if i wanted to do it or not. i dont even know where the drain is on it. |
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Jul 8th, 2006, 01:51 PM
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#2 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: So. Cal.
Posts: 36 Interests: Riding and Racing Occupation: Automotive Instructor
| Piece of cake. The drain plug is on a tab on the frame. Right side just in front of the rear wheel. Warm it up a little to get all the oil to drain better and maybe put a piece of wood under the jiffy stand to level it out. Change the filter and fill it with about 2.5-3 quarts of good oil. I use Mobil one V-Twin but Syn 3 is okay also. I prefer the CCI filters to Harley just as preference. Waarm it up and top it off on a level surface and thats it. Piece of cake.
I dont run the Syn 3 in the primary or trans though. For the primary I use Type "F" ATF and in the trans I use Belray 85-90 with good luck. |
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Jul 8th, 2006, 06:08 PM
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#3 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| degrave, the FIRST step in changing your oil is to get the service manual!!! read about changing the oil, look for the plugs as described in the manual. it will be the best money you spend on your bike. if you are still a bit leary, take it to an independant bike shop and explain you would like to watch the oil change. a lot of them will accomodate your request. the service manual is different from the owners manual that comes with the bike. a few folks have said "yes" to owning a service manual and pull out the owners manual........have fun, and fi ya got any more questions........ask away!!!
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Jul 9th, 2006, 07:07 AM
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#4 | | Has posted 500+
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Posts: 866 Model: 03 883 XLC-CHOPPER Occupation: welder
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Jul 9th, 2006, 02:36 PM
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#5 | | Has posted 500+
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| You really don't need a jack, but have to find something that isn't too high to fit under the bike to catch the oil. I never used a service manual, just the owners manual, which showed me the locations of the crankcase drain, primary and trans drains too. Then I went to work. Also, the salesperson at HD told me exactly the amounts required in the tranny, primary and crankcase, but the owners manual tells you the same. I use Harley Davidson lubes, and I guess its my choice. I will continue to do that too. Peace...  |
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Jul 9th, 2006, 03:28 PM
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#6 | | Has posted 500+
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| Not To Change The Fluids? Service Manual, Jack ,proper Tools For The Job Makes Life Easier. But Now That I Think About It, It Probable Would Make It Easier Because You Could Sit On A Stool Instead Of Kneeing It. |
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Jul 10th, 2006, 10:38 AM
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#7 | | Has posted 500+
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| Softails are a dry sump engine, the oil is kept in that tank under the seat,
the drail for the tank is on the exhaust side at the end of the frame, underneath the bike in front of the rear tire. It takes a large allen socket to take out. It has an o-ring so be sure to get a new one, worth the pennies it costs.
I would get a floor jack from Sears it's about $99 and well worth it not only for oil changes but any maintainence, cleaning or just sitting around looking at the bike and bs'n.
You must start and warm the bike up so the oil returns to the tank, don't take the drain plug in the bottom of the engine cases out, if you fubar it well lets just say it's not a good thing.
Remove the filter, the HD wrench is a good tool becuase they have placed a friggin sensor in the way, I figure this was done to increase the sales of HD oil filter wrenches. I use a strap wrench you can get at any parts store.
Now Oil will run out of the filter housing and all over the front of the bike so, you can put a cardboard piece long and narrow in a V shape to sit and catch the oil and drain to a pan, or, aluminum foil, paper towels, or cut the bottom off a 1 gallon water jug with a handle and the sides so it can slip under the filter.
FIll the new filter with fresh oil and rub some new oil around the rubber gasket of the filter and reinstall, Put the drain plug in I put a little of the pipe thread tape on the plug to prevent leakage.
Fill the oil with about 3 qts. Fire her up and let it get warm, check fluid level add if necessary, DON"T OVER FILL or you'll be wearing oil pants.
If you are planning on working on the bike the Service Manual is a must, at $40 its the best investment, you'll learn alot about the bike and know how to do things that will save you bucks. First oil change will pay for the book in labor savings alone.
Good oil JMHO HD 360 if you don't want syn or any Vtwin 20W-50 oil will work If you prefer Synthetic, you'll get a boat load of endorsements of every oil out there but basically as long as it's 20W-50 oil that meets HD's specs you're golden.
Mobil 1 Gold Cap Car oil will work fine and it's about $5 at Target or Wally World
HD Syn3 is good in the primary and motor I've heard rumors about problems with trans and Syn3 but HD still puts it in the CVO bikes from the factory, figure if it was true HD wouldn't be putting it in trans. |
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Jul 10th, 2006, 11:57 AM
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#8 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| the only problem i see is filling the filter before installing it.....you will never get it on without dumping most of the oil out of the filter........i have never put oil in my filter, but i DO put clean oil on the gasket. that being said, try it both ways......see which works for you. there is enough oil left in your system for the pump to pick up and start working.
chuck |
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Jul 10th, 2006, 01:11 PM
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#9 | | Has posted 500+
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| Chuck,
I haven't had that problem, when I put oil in the filter the material wicks away a lot of it, I hold the filter upright and then down quickly to turn.
Nothing much has ever come out of the filter doing it this way, then again I've usually had a little bit of old oil hanging around LOL
I dont' fill it to the top just about 2/3's so the filters not dry when it starts up. |
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