[ringo912]

Has anyone have experience with the fueling super pump. I'm changing over to gear drive cams and am considering changing the oil pump while I have it apart. Fueling claims a 40% increase in pressure volume and 60% increase in scavenge volume. My question is, are the oil ports in the TC88 large enough to allow 40% more oil flow or will this pump just create more oil pressure.

My logic is this, if I have a 1/2" hose connected to a pump that pumps 100 gpm and I increase the pump size to 200gpm, will the 1/2" hose be large enough to take the additonal volume, or will I just have a flow of 100gpm at a higher pressure? So with the Fueling pump am I really getting more oil flow or just the same amount at a higher pressure?

What about the oil filter, will it also flow the additional volume of oil, or will the media restrict the flow?

[hotroadking]

That's kind of been my take, you'll get more pressure, now that could equate to more oil flow, so you won't have any lags or low pressure you'll always have adequate amounts of oil to cool everything.

I'd ask Feuling that very question.


JMO you'll have more pressure but that's not bad either.

[ringo912]

Originally Posted by hotroadking

That's kind of been my take, you'll get more pressure, now that could equate to more oil flow, so you won't have any lags or low pressure you'll always have adequate amounts of oil to cool everything.

I'd ask Feuling that very question.


JMO you'll have more pressure but that's not bad either.

I sent an email to Fueling, I'll post their response.

[ringo912]

Ok...so here is the response I got back from Fueling:

Our oil pump does work with the stock camplate and yes you will see an
increase in both your engine oil flow volume, oil pressure, cooler
engine and oil temperatures. You are right about the ports which is why
we produced the Feuling camplate with larger ports - the addition of a
feuling camplate to an engine already running the Feuling oil pump will
decrease the engine temps by another 20 degrees.
The most important feature of the Feuling oil pump is the return side -
the increased scavenge volume keeps the crankcases free from oil build
up creating a true dry sump system.

Further ?'s please call
Thanks,
Luke Leatherman
Feuling Parts
Ph. 619-917-6222

[Red Rider]

Everything that Feuling said was told to me previously by a top wrench in Reno. He also said that, while an improvement, the Feuling pump/cam-plate expense would not be worth the $$ on my mildly upgraded TC88. Its installation increases in value as the displacement increases, and so I'd definitely go that route if I were to increase the cubes to over 95, or had a hot running 95.

Also, I've heard rumors of folks drilling out their own cam plates to make the Feuling work better. Rumor had it that this often led to leakage problems, (warping) but I can't verify any of that.

[ringo912]

Originally Posted by Red Rider

Everything that Feuling said was told to me previously by a top wrench in Reno. He also said that, while an improvement, the Feuling pump/cam-plate expense would not be worth the $$ on my mildly upgraded TC88. Its installation increases in value as the displacement increases, and so I'd definitely go that route if I were to increase the cubes to over 95, or had a hot running 95.

Also, I've heard rumors of folks drilling out their own cam plates to make the Feuling work better. Rumor had it that this often led to leakage problems, (warping) but I can't verify any of that.

Ok...so are you saying to buy the pump but not the new plate, or not buy the pump or the plate if I'm not increasing the cubes? I'm not going to do any head work, I'm just changing over to gear driven cams.

[hotroadking]

Don't waste your money, you don't need it for a mild cam change.

IF you want more oil pressure I can help you do it for $.10, would you split the difference between the fueling setup and my tip???

Knowledge is money right

Go to Ace Hardware, pick up a #10 brass washer it's a small one perfect fit for our task and a whopping $.10 Get a couple incase you loose stuff easy. Go for it spring for $.50 worth!

When you take your cam plate out you'll see a small dowl pin sticking out of one of the oil ports, inside is a spring.

Remove the pin partially, don't take it all the way out, just enough to clear out the inside for the next step., you will have to tap it out, don't loose it.

Now you'll see this spring, take your brass washer and place it on top of the spring, find a tool you can use to push the washer down and compress the spring, then tap the dowl pin through to hold the washer over the spring.

Presto changeo you have 10 pounds more oil pressure works like a charm.

Checks can be made our to Causing alota shidt here or just C.a.s.h

[ringo912]

Originally Posted by hotroadking

Don't waste your money, you don't need it for a mild cam change.

IF you want more oil pressure I can help you do it for $.10, would you split the difference between the fueling setup and my tip???

Knowledge is money right

Go to Ace Hardware, pick up a #10 brass washer it's a small one perfect fit for our task and a whopping $.10 Get a couple incase you loose stuff easy. Go for it spring for $.50 worth!

When you take your cam plate out you'll see a small dowl pin sticking out of one of the oil ports, inside is a spring.

Remove the pin partially, don't take it all the way out, just enough to clear out the inside for the next step., you will have to tap it out, don't loose it.

Now you'll see this spring, take your brass washer and place it on top of the spring, find a tool you can use to push the washer down and compress the spring, then tap the dowl pin through to hold the washer over the spring.

Presto changeo you have 10 pounds more oil pressure works like a charm.

Checks can be made our to Causing alota shidt here or just C.a.s.h

Hey HRK...I almost sent ya a check, then it dawned on me I now have extra $$ to spend on something else for the bike. I really appreciate the tip. Be going to the local hardware over the weekend. As far as loosing things I always say, "outa all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most".

[Red Rider]

I'm with HRK on this, especially since you probably don't have a lot of heat up there in Michigan and aren't as likely to overload your Heritage as us bagger bikers might. If you have oil leakage at high load it will probably fix that (everything else being A-OK), but you never mentioned that, so I'm guessing that its money better spent elsewhere on your ride.

[hotroadking]

Loose that pin and you'll be looking all over the place for it, and your dealer probably won't have one in stock, if it's like mine

That should do the trick.