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Dec 27th, 2007, 06:24 AM
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on the bottom of the bike about in the middle of the crank case is a drain plug
i've been told to never mess with it  what is it? |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 08:15 AM
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I'm not really sure. But do you do everything you're told?  |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 08:34 AM
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hardly ever, i've got bad vibes this time
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Dec 27th, 2007, 10:12 AM
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#4
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It basically a casting drain plug for the cases, no need to mess with it, if you do and fubar it you get to buy new cases and spend thousands of dollars on assembly parts and labor and you dont' ride until its done.
Unless you suspect your motor is sumping oil it's not necessary to remove that plug at any time.
You have a dry sump oil system that recovers into the oil pan below the trans, so, as you were told
Leave it alone unless you wish to temp the gods of repair!  |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 10:42 AM
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thanks. i'll leave it alone. i heard it could be a mess  |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 11:44 AM
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I tempted fate and took the plug out while doing an oil change. I got maybe an extra pint of oil out. I put some lock tite on it and put it back in no problems. I think to FUBAR it up yo would have to cross thread it or turn it until it goes into the case. For the amount of oil I got out I will most likely not mess with it again. |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 12:23 PM
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so far i've found two ways mother hd tricks us
1. useless drain plug which could only result in buying a new case 
2. throwing in a container of "mink oil" so you put it on your saddlebags and ruin em  |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 12:39 PM
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Actually getting that dirty oil out of the crank case is not a bad idea. I do it about once a year. You don't have to mess with the plug though, just change your oil as usual and unhook a return line. Start the bike up and watch the oil that comes out into your pan until it turns clean, less than a quart. Turn the motor off, hook the return line back up, top off your oil and you are good to go. AL
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Dec 27th, 2007, 01:06 PM
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Al
I do that as well with my softail, one thing I did get was the Scavenger system, its a bit pricey but it has a nice billet oil filter replacement that returns all oil from the filter area(I have a cooler) so I want that oil out too!
Basically the billet piece screws on where the filter would and forces the oil to return to the motor, hook up a bit of clear hose to the return line to the oil tank and watch the black oil come out.
Scavenger Oil Change |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 01:15 PM
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That looks pretty cool HotRK Im almost afraid to ask, how much is pricy? AL
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Dec 27th, 2007, 03:27 PM
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The Evo unit is $50ish and my TC Softail was $70, yeah probably too much for what I got but, it works I could easily use a filter but figure by doing this i'm not pumping old oil into a new filter.
The A motor is like $140 which I think is absurdly priced, but they do have some special fittings that you put on the bike that make it easier, but it's not worth that kind of bucks.
If it were me I'd get the softail model for the tc as the billet oil return plug is the same on b or a motors. then just pop off the oil line like you did.
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Dec 27th, 2007, 04:01 PM
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that aint too awful bad if they are well made and last a while. I could justify it because, just think, getting all that dirty oil out of there is bound to extend your engine life. Now Im always getting the a's and b's bassackwards, on my 2002 Road King I believe I have the A motor?? AL
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Dec 27th, 2007, 04:59 PM
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2. throwing in a container of "mink oil" so you put it on your saddlebags and ruin em...
Wait, wait, wait a minute. Saddlebags are made of mink now?!?!? 
 Sorry, hadda go there.... |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 08:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyReb
2. throwing in a container of "mink oil" so you put it on your saddlebags and ruin em...
Wait, wait, wait a minute. Saddlebags are made of mink now?!?!?
Sorry, hadda go there.... |
hehe, well i see ya aint lost your sense of humor!!!!!!!!!!1 lol lol |
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Dec 27th, 2007, 11:14 PM
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Hey HotRK before we digress too far, let me pick your brain, is the 2002 RK an A motor or a B motor, suppose I could check the manual down in my shop tomorrow. What modifications were made to the B motor. AL
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Dec 28th, 2007, 06:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Al
Hey HotRK before we digress too far, let me pick your brain, is the 2002 RK an A motor or a B motor, suppose I could check the manual down in my shop tomorrow. What modifications were made to the B motor. AL
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Al...the RK and all touring bikes have the "A" motor. The "B",(Balanced) motor is exclusive to the Softail bikes. The A motors are rubber mounted in the frames. The B motors are hard mounted in the softail frames. The difference is, the B motor has rotating counterbalancers in the lower case. With the motor hard mounted in the softails, the counterbalancers eliiminate about 90%of the motors vibration.
I also have the Scavenger oil flush system. It is very well made, CNC machined billet aluminum. After I drain my oil I usually get an additional 28 ozs of dirty oil. It basically works the same as what you do, but instead of pumping the remaining dirty oil through a new filter, you use the scanveger puck.
After flushing out the dirty oil you put your new filter on and top off the oil bag. When ny brother saw how much dirty oil came out he bought one for his EVO. |
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Dec 28th, 2007, 08:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyReb
2. throwing in a container of "mink oil" so you put it on your saddlebags and ruin em...
Wait, wait, wait a minute. Saddlebags are made of mink now?!?!?
Sorry, hadda go there.... |
you got it. no wonder it hurts saddlebags, should be using cow oil  |
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Dec 28th, 2007, 09:19 AM
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Ringo answered it correctly, B - softail - balancers
A - rubber mounts -Baggers and Dynas
The puck as Ringo dub'ed it LOL is a well made part, knurled on the sides for easy on and off, nice work, rubber o ring built in.
Easy to to the work on a softail, the bagger setup comes with some fittings that go on you bike to make it easier to use when changing the oil.
I'd call them to discuss, if dirty oil bugs you, then it's a good thing, especially if you run a cooler. Probably won't make an ant hills worth of difference but it did give me something else to do in the garage and extend my cigar time!
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Dec 28th, 2007, 09:41 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hotroadking
Ringo answered it correctly, B - softail - balancers
A - rubber mounts -Baggers and Dynas
The puck as Ringo dub'ed it LOL is a well made part, knurled on the sides for easy on and off, nice work, rubber o ring built in.
Easy to to the work on a softail, the bagger setup comes with some fittings that go on you bike to make it easier to use when changing the oil.
I'd call them to discuss, if dirty oil bugs you, then it's a good thing, especially if you run a cooler. Probably won't make an ant hills worth of difference but it did give me something else to do in the garage and extend my cigar time!
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Hey HRK...seems we can always find some reason to be out in the garage with the scooter
Ultra Al... If ya go to roguechopper.com you can watch a video demonstration of the oil scavenger system. |
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