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Aug 24th, 2004, 08:28 PM
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 391 Model: 02 wide glide Interests: harleys-jack daniels-that "one thing" Occupation: trying to make a living
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I spent all day riding in a group forseveral hundred miles..I got ten miles from home and I was the first turn riding alone when this a mid-size SUV decides to turn left in front of me after she was about twenty feet past the road!!!( maybe it stalled or something but she stopped with the quickness!!
 She used No signal and had no brake lights!!! I hit the brakes front one first (usual) by a millo-sec then the back brake..skid for about twelve feet-15ft then as the bike rear end came around to the left I backed off the brakes and held it/hold on for the funky forward momentum  thing to happen then back on the brakes....I got stopped about one foot from the rear bumper of the SUV and then she puts on her turn signal and dang nears turn right in front of three other bikes!!! . I just drove on past....that all happened in about 2 seconds at 55 miles per hour... good thing I had a little room..anybody My buddy went past the marks yesterday and said there was about 15ft straight then widened out( where the bike slid) then that was it..anyone Is thank goodness for 18 yrs of off road riding on the slide tech..but gotta admit alot more concern on an 02 wide glide... but faired much better than two years ago when I had no time and got blasted from a side road....anyone got any tech sites for evasive manueving for big bikesfor people to read..not the first close call or first brake ride for life but ya never know what you can learn from this site...almost ruined my Daytona plans!!!
 should have licked her door in on my way by her!! 
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Aug 24th, 2004, 08:40 PM
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 391 Model: 02 wide glide Interests: harleys-jack daniels-that "one thing" Occupation: trying to make a living
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I spent all day riding in a group forseveral hundred miles..I got ten miles from home and I was into the first turn riding alone when this a mid-size SUV decides to turn left in front of me after she was about twenty feet past the road to turn onto!!!( maybe it stalled or something but she stopped with the quickness!!
She used No signal and had no brake lights!!! I hit the brakes front one first (usual) by a millo-sec then the back brake..skid for about twelve feet-15ft then as the bike rear end came around to the left I backed off the brakes and held it/hold on for the funky forward momentum thing to happen then back on the brakes....I got stopped about one foot from the rear bumper of the SUV and then she puts on her turn signal and dang nears turn right in front of three other bikes!!! . I just drove on past....that all happened in about 2 seconds at 55 miles per hour... good thing I had a little room.. My buddy went past the marks yesterday and said there was about 15ft straight then widened out( where the bike slid) then that was it..Is thank goodness for 18 yrs of off road riding on the slide tech..but gotta admit alot more concern on an 02 wide glide... but faired much better than two years ago when I had no time and got blasted from a side road....anyone got any tech sites for evasive manueving for big bikesfor people to read..not the first close call or first brake ride for life but ya never know what you can learn from this site...almost ruined my Daytona plans!!!
should have kicked her door in on my way by her!!
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Aug 24th, 2004, 09:37 PM
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Very Active Poster 50+
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 94 Interests: Harley Occupation: College Business Manager
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Really glad you lived to write about it. Those left-turns-in-front-of-you are DEATH. I 'expect' to be run over all the time. Finger on the horn, toe on the brake. Eyes wide open. Trust nothing. Especially a f**king SUV. I hate those the most. I got run off to the road shoulder earlier this year by a big white SUV. Scary.
As for evasive manuevering: I go to a forest perserve parking lot and practice fast stops so I know the limits of skidding. I do tight turns, weaving, and dead stop balancing. Practice makes safer. Remeber the TWO SECOND rule for spacing between you and what's ahead of you. You could possibly look into a motorcycle riding course. Nothing lame about learning from professionals.
I skiied on my palms and forearms at 40mph after taking a spill.( My fault for trusting my mirror while changing lanes. A car nipped the handelbars and down I went.) My advice is DON'T DO THAT. I still have the road rash scars 20 years later.
Ride safe.
Yo, down the road,
Painter
Last edited by Painter55 : Aug 24th, 2004 at 09:40 PM.
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Aug 25th, 2004, 08:49 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 1,989
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MSF or Motorcycle Safety Foundation has an advanced riders course, you'll learn more in a few days then you could learn in a lifetime on the road by yourself. Not that experience doesn't count but experience coupled with education is a far superior tool.
Check with your local MSF groups and take the two day course.
I had a guy in a Jag almost pull out in front of me in Daytona this weekend, some lights are down still flashing Yellow one way red the other, I should have been going slower, and he stopped but it could have been a real problem.
Letting off the rear to regain traction is a good thing, lots of folks think that when you slide you are slowing down the best way, but that's not true, the best is when the tire is just barely rolling.
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Aug 25th, 2004, 11:54 AM
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mankato, MN
Posts: 381 Interests: Motorcycles, Mountain bikes, guns, Hunting, fishing
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[quote=hotroadking]MSF or Motorcycle Safety Foundation has an advanced riders course, you'll learn more in a few days then you could learn in a lifetime on the road by yourself.
I plan to take this class next spring. My buddy went down a few weeks back. We'd been out for probably the best ride of the year on a perfect day and about 4 miles from some beer and pizza at home, this big alaskan husky runs out in traffic in front of us. We were in the left lane of a four lane...a pickup truck just to the right of us and ahead tried to slow down and miss the dog but clipped the hind quarter which spun the dog...at that time I swerved left and accelerated past it...but my buddy was riding staggered to my right and behind and just didn't have as much room to make his move...I still remember looking back in my mirrors and seeing him go down  He ended up with his leg broke in five places...but was lucky to save his leg at all. I've had some other close calls but that one really drove home the idea that I need to get as much advanced training as possible. The way I see it, the father in law hit a deer last year, now my buddy got it...I figure my numbers coming up.
By the Way I checked out the course online and up here anyway they only charge $55.00 for the advanced riders course...I'd say thats money well spent...especially since some insurance agency's will give you a break for participating in the course.
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Aug 25th, 2004, 03:17 PM
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Very Active Poster 50+
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 94 Interests: Harley Occupation: College Business Manager
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These stories of wrecking on a bike are horrid. My best tip for safe riding is to go slow, scan ahead, plan for evasive action.
Unlike sky-diving, cave-diving, bungy jumping, tequila shot contests, and other dangerous hobbies, motorcycling is in a class of its own.
GO SLOW.
LOOK COOL.
AND WHEN NO ONE IS LOOKING
RIDE LIKE THE WIND.
Yo, down the road (and not down ON the road),
Painter
Last edited by Painter55 : Aug 26th, 2004 at 10:38 AM.
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Aug 26th, 2004, 08:42 AM
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Very Active Poster 50+
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 81
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The first thing I do when I saddle up, before I pull out of the driveway, is get my head right. I do that by saying to myself that everyone on the road today is going to try and kill me. If they don't get me, their animals and the weather will do it.
If you get lazy or daydream in your auto, you have some repairs to do. On your bike, you get mangled or die.
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Aug 27th, 2004, 11:45 PM
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Mankato, MN
Posts: 381 Interests: Motorcycles, Mountain bikes, guns, Hunting, fishing
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ffflhtcui's comment brought something to mind that may help....The first thing I do when I get on my bike (usually) is say a quick prayer for safety...for myself and often for all bikers on the road. I realize not everyone is a believer but for those who are...prayer is not only for after an accident. So far so good; and while it may be just coincidence, I feel more at peace when I do...and how many of us do other things for simple peace of mind...like putting on oil coolers when you live in Minnesota 
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Aug 29th, 2004, 04:28 PM
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#9
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 391 Model: 02 wide glide Interests: harleys-jack daniels-that "one thing" Occupation: trying to make a living
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thanks to all...yeah I am always looking ahead and staying clear as best as possible. This is far from the first evasive manuevering I have had to do over the years. Best to stay calm and always try and have an out. I will check out that online site for advance riders courses,can't hurt to refresh my mind on things. I have taken every car and bike I owned somewhere where I can see what it will do under severe stopping and swerving just to get to know what can happen. Hopefully some of these courses will show actual footage of bikes in evasive action and even explain some characteristics of what "bikes/bikers tend to do" both good and bad.
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