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Old Aug 24th, 2004, 08:20 PM   #1
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I'm looking to replace my rubber front and rear in a couple weeks. I had my back wheel off this past week for some service and it is severely cupped as is the front. I'm just wondering if one of these tire sealant/balancers would be a wise way to go for evening out the tread wear and providing a smoother ride?
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Old Aug 25th, 2004, 07:54 AM   #2
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Havent used it but I don't know how it would "balance" the tire at all.

Seems to me if you have a tire problem or suspension problem the out of balance tire would stay that way as the fluids not going to go to the opposite side of the tire to offset it.

Lots of shots mount but never balance tires. It does make a difference IMHO, also if you haven't changed fork fluids in a while or if your bikes older you may want to consider an upgrade to new springs, the stock ones do wear over time, it's just they are not seen therefore they are not looked at like wear items.

I run progressive rear shocks on the softail and it's an amazing difference over stock, the stocks would bottom out two up the progressives I can set to be firm and not bottom out.

Front fork springs are my next deal, right now I run HD SE Racing fork oil, it's firmer and you don't have all the dive of the stock oil.
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Old Aug 25th, 2004, 10:36 AM   #3
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Thats kinda my thinking about the balancing aspect. Kinda like a wash machine out of balance...the out of balance action would tend to sling the liquid towards the out of balance area wouldn't it....exaccerbating the problem even more. But then if you read the testamonials from all those bikers?...I don't know what to think about that.
Do they make upgraded springs for the front end of an FLHT?...Remember I have the air suspension. I read good things about race emulators too for forks but I don't think they work with the air shocks either. The rear suspension I'll just keep pumping air into until I can afford the legend air suspension I want not likely to happen real soon though.
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Old Aug 30th, 2004, 04:14 PM   #4
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There are several fixes for the FLT front ends. More preload, stiffer oil and add 1/2 oz. Progressive rate springs from Progressive or others. Race Tech cartridge emulators and springs. On the back end, Progressive 440 in standard or heavy weight springs work great.

The major downside of any air type suspension is heat. Heat expands air raising pressure. A quick watch of any NASCAR race and listen to the announcers talk about tire pressures. This is why we run Nitrogen in aircraft tires it does not expand with changes in temperature.

An FLT can be set up to handle very well and carry good loads without compromising handling much.

Liquid or centrifugal balancing has been around a while. It is kind of hard to understand until you can read a good article on it like this one.

http://www.lasplash.com/Centramatic.php

How well the stuff that goes into a tire does compared to a specialized unit like the one in the article I do not know. I do remember running the green snot in my Stingray Bike. Helped balance and seal the tube from the ever present sticker holes.
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Old Aug 31st, 2004, 06:18 AM   #5
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I have recently had a bad experience with the liquid balance stuff. My bike is a 1997 that I bought used. I brought the front wheel to the local shop to have it replaced hoping to be on the road in an hour or two. Whoever owned the bike previously used that liquid balance stuff. What a freeking mess! It wreaks havoc on aluminum rims and is very messy to remove. I had to bring the wheel back home and clean it with a wire brush and ultimately with a wire wheel on my bench grinder. There was all kinds of corrosion inside the rim. The mechanic at the shop says he won't even sell the stuff because he has seen this happen too many times. If it does enough damage, the tire won't even seal. Anyway, he speed balanced it and it rides great. A word of advice.... Don't use it.

Good luck.
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