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Jan 30th, 2008, 08:13 PM
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 334 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
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Forgive me my newbie questions please....
The guy I bought my bike from said to only use regular gas, never higher octane. Is this true?
I also noticed it ran a bit smoother with BP brand.
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Jan 30th, 2008, 08:17 PM
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#2
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: cheyenne wy
Posts: 802 Model: 06 flhxi Interests: family,fun, fast chrome Occupation: causing hate and discontent
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quality of fuel is important, and most folks I know run premium, or mid with octane booster. My ops manuel dictates 90+ oct and if its efi no more than 10% ethenol is recomended 
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Jan 30th, 2008, 09:07 PM
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#3
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 334 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
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Thanks Ironhorse. Anyone else?
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Jan 30th, 2008, 11:37 PM
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#4
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Has posted 500+
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: middleburg, pa
Posts: 696 Model: 06 FLST hertiage, stage 1 1450 pc111 Interests: hunting,wood working Occupation: medical asst. tech/DPW
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seems that running anything but premium is about unheard of 
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Jan 31st, 2008, 05:31 AM
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#5
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Very Active Poster 50+
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: East Central Indiana
Posts: 93 Occupation: Cad/Cam Tool designer
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I don't know what you are riding, other than you have listed a Harley. My old bike, a 1991 FLHS, is fine with mid grade, actually runs best on it. The newer bikes with fuel injection recommend at least 91. My wife's bike (2005 Super Glide) does fine on 92 octane. My newer bike, (2007 Road King with 103) likes the very best I can get it.
Provided your air fuel ratio and timing is correct... if the bike pings much you have too low of octane. Personally, I don't want any pinging at all.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 05:51 AM
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#6
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 464 Model: 1999 Fatboy Interests: Bikes, Cars, Woodworking, etc. Occupation: Jack of all trades and master of none
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I always run super in mine as long as it's available. I have run regular in it as well. There is a small indy station near my house that only sells regular and he's the cheapest around. Once in a while I go there if I'm too low on fuel to get to the next station. It seems to run fine with the regular. No pinging or anything but it does seem to perform a little better with the super.
Either way, I'm pretty certain you won't HARM anything using super. Worst case is that you buy it but don't really need it. I'm not sure why he said NEVER to use it.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 06:39 AM
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#7
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Georgia
Posts: 270 Model: '05 Heritage Interests: Riding, Shooting, Grandkids Occupation: Retired
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I believe the manual says to use at least 91 octane in mine. I always use 93 since the mid grade is 89 I think.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 08:41 AM
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#8
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 334 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
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Thanks for all the input guys, most appreciated. I have the 2003 Anniversary 883 XLH Sportster. I do get hesitation when I hold it steady at one speed like 25, 35, 50, for a little while. It's kind of a stutter. Is that what you guys mean by pinging, or is that something else?
I'll certainly move up to mid octane next refill until I find out for sure what's recommended.
Harley's website doesn't offer access to info about older models, at least as far as I can see.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 09:42 AM
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#9
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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I run Premium IIRC the manual calls for premium grade, if you run less you need to be sure you have no detonation.
If you have a higher compression motor you need to run the super!
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Jan 31st, 2008, 09:49 AM
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#10
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Alvin TX
Posts: 1,729 Model: 03 E Glide X cop bike Interests: My family Old Dodge truck's Riding My Glide Occupation: Retired truck Driver
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hellboy, my daughter's 04 883 , book says to run 90 or higher octane
the hesatation (sp) you feel is different then the grade of gas you use
it seems all the sporty's have it once you change the pipes & air cleaner ,
sometimes you can adjust the carb , other time's you'll have to rejet it A good shop should know how to do it , if you can't , do a search here on carbs or sporty carbs , we all just talked about this about a month or so ago
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Jan 31st, 2008, 09:56 AM
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#11
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 334 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
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Thanks Cowboy, Hot RoadKing. I'm guessing my 2003 883 isn't much different than your daughter's Cowboy, so next time I'll fill'er up with high octane!
Roadking, my pipes were changed to drag pipes before I bought it. I'm trying to resolve the excessive noise problem in another thread. I like the sound, but need to dial it down say... 20%. Once I find the solution to that, I'll definitely see if the mechanic can address the hesitation/hiccup. No reason to tune it for pipes that need changing/adjusting.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 10:22 AM
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#12
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: lake jackson,tx
Posts: 912 Model: 03 883 XLC-CHOPPER Occupation: welder
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The O3 Sporster Is The Last Of The Old Sportsters. The O4 Is Much Differn't In The Tuneing Of The Motor. The Owners Manual Says To Run 87 Octane On All Sportsters Except The Xl Sport Which Uses 91. I've Always Ran 87, Put Premium In Before And Really Can't Tell Any Differnce. I'll Put Some B-12 Chem. In Every So Offten For Cleaning Where Ever The Gas Flows. I Would Say That It Doesn't Really Matter, But Every One I Know Uses Premium. Maybe The Big Twin Uses 91 Couldn't Tell Ya. If You Have Any More ?'s I Have The Owners Manual. Not The Service Manual YOUR HICK UP AND HESITATION IS PROBABLEY BECAUSE WHO EVER PUT ON THE DRAG PIPES DIDN'T RE'JET THE CARB, MINE DID THE SAME THING. MORE THAN LIKELY IF YOU PUT BAFFLES IN IT, IT WILL GO BACK CLOSE TO NORMAL WITHOUT HAVING TO DO CARB WORK, BECAUSE YOU WILL BE PUTTING IT BACK TO BEING CLOSE TO STOCK AGIAN.
Last edited by SPORSTERBOY : Jan 31st, 2008 at 10:28 AM.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 10:25 AM
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#13
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More than 100 posts!
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Newaygo,Mi.
Posts: 144 Interests: Bike riding Occupation: supervisor
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I always use the highest octane gas I can find,on my 75 sportty
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Jan 31st, 2008, 01:18 PM
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#14
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NYC
Posts: 334 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
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Thanks Sportsterboy, I'd love to find an owners manual. 87 is regular, but I have the 883 XLH Anniv. model, does that belong to the same XL sport category you mentioned that Harley was recommending higher octane for?
* Like your bikes style there whacker.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 01:56 PM
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#15
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Location: Churchill County, NV
Posts: 641 Model: '99 FLHR Road King Interests: Ride, Hunt, 4X4, Fish, Cigars - the good things Occupation: U.S. Navy - Retired
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High octane gas is not as crucial in the coolest months, as the denser air correspondingly contains more oxygen. The hotter the temperature outside, the more octane matters. Check your plugs' color for a decent indication that you're gettng good burn.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 03:52 PM
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#16
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Posts: 334 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
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Cool, Red. No pun intended  thanks.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 05:21 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Stanton, NJ
Posts: 1,298 Model: 04 Dyna WG (with a 240 rear tire) Interests: Harleys, drag racing, family, fishing, my rottweilers, the UFC Occupation: Carpenter/Builder
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I have always run super, nothing else. Never looked at the manual for that info, just assumed it was the best thing to run in it.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 05:41 PM
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#18
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Ohio
Posts: 391 Model: 02 wide glide Interests: harleys-jack daniels-that "one thing" Occupation: trying to make a living
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02 wideglide "100pure gasoline" from shell or sunoco(BP makes everything I own run bad(ohio) 92oct is the lowest runs great. I take the lucas gas treatment when I get out of state and end up getting what I can whenya gotta stop. Lucky to have a family owned machine shop and see the difference(heads/valves/intake), in what people put in their tanks auto/bike or otherwise. My dad's 05 sprty "spit" straight from the day he got this one. Took it back twice and the stealership idled it up. ( i even checked to make sure there was no paint or anyhting obstucting the vent tube.) it spit until the day he got rid of it a year or so later. The thing ran great but spit and hicked in the middle of intersections etc. They tried to tell him they all did it to some degree. Needless to say we know better, but they tell people anything if they think it will help and think ya don't know better they really try to get ya. His bike was straight stock.
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Jan 31st, 2008, 07:40 PM
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#19
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i run the highes octane i can get also....try to stick with name brands.... 
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Jan 31st, 2008, 08:54 PM
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#20
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200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Livingston, Tx.
Posts: 432 Model: 08 FLHT Interests: Motorcycles, fishing Occupation: Semi retired locksmith
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chucktx
i run the highes octane i can get also....try to stick with name brands.... 
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2nd that !
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