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Mar 3rd, 2008, 06:38 PM
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#1 | | Rookie 10+ posts
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| Harley Race Tuner or Power Commander
I have a 07 Ultra Classic and want to change the mufflers and add the stage 1 kit. I have gotten contradicting stories from the HD dealers about using the harley race tuner or the power commander. Which is the best route to take here. I know there is a little more money in the race tuner but if in the long run thats the better way to go I think the extra money would be well spent. One harley dealer claims the tuner is best and the PCIII won't work on my bike! Another harley dealer says the PCIII is great and no need to go to the tuner! Who is one to believer here?? Any advice would be appreciated on this one. Plan to install the Rush 2.0 slash mufflers along with the air kit.
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Mar 3rd, 2008, 06:48 PM
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#2 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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Posts: 1,442 Model: 2004 E Glide Standard, Stage 1. Interests: Riding, fishing, hunting, camping, spending time with wife and daughter Occupation: Air Force Nurse
| Both will work...or should work. The Race Tuner tends to be much more expensive and has to be programed by the HD guys. The Power Commander is less expensive. You can do the basic tune yourself by installing the download map from their website. The main thing to keep in mind is that with the download map, it will be close, but you need a good dyno tuner to pull it all the way in.....of course, with the race tuner, the tech also needs to be good on the dyno, or it will not be pulled in tight either...... a third option you may look at would be something like the Zippers Thundermax with AutoTune.....it has O2 sensors and makes adjustments on the fly based on the exhause gases makeup....... Good luck!
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Mar 5th, 2008, 08:35 AM
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| another thingto remember is the pc can go bike to bike, the race tuner is engine/puter spicific, you have a putr problem you need a new race tuner, allthough a race tuner can be dialed in per cylinder, injector, timing and such where as the pc3 are more of a general fuel adjuster.
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Mar 5th, 2008, 08:38 AM
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| and like afn said to get the most out of any tuner, a dyno is only as good as the operator, and a good dyno tuner, can make anything scream.
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Mar 5th, 2008, 09:53 AM
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| I run the PC 111 for many reason's I can change my pipe s ( I have three different set's for my E Glide) & when the wife is gone I can drag her lap top out to the garage & reset my bike & have a cool one while I'am at it , no taking it to a dealer & spending moer of my beer money & not drinking it
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Mar 5th, 2008, 11:04 AM
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#6 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Moundsville, WV
Posts: 14 Model: 2007 Ultra Classic Interests: Riding, Woodworking Occupation: Retired
| Thanks guys! I ordered the Rush 2.0 mufflers today and then next week the bikes going it for the pipes, stage one kit and the PCIII and then onto the dyno! I'll let you all know how it turns out when its all done. Thanks again for the advice.
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Mar 5th, 2008, 12:06 PM
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Posts: 730 Model: 06 FLST hertiage, stage 1 1450 pc111 Interests: hunting,wood working Occupation: medical asst. tech/DPW
| good choice, even better would be the thundermax. but . . . you'll not be disappointed with the pc111 | |
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Mar 5th, 2008, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ironhorse  .........and a good dyno tuner, can make anything scream. | Guess we best keep our wives/girlfriends away from the dyno room!
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Mar 5th, 2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hotroadking Guess we best keep our wives/girlfriends away from the dyno room! |  HRK...your killin me | |
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Mar 5th, 2008, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by hotroadking Guess we best keep our wives/girlfriends away from the dyno room! | carefull HRK it could be keep the boyfriend out of the dyno room hot 01 abby is here and albet the she ain't scared a no dyno/beer
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