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Dec 25th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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#1 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: LAKE HAVASU CITY
Posts: 28 Model: 1982 HARLEYDAVIDSON SPORTSTER Interests: HARLEYS, AND FISHING Occupation: HIGH SCHOOL
| Do I Need Blinkers [FONT="Comic Sans MS"]DO I NEED FRONT BLINKERS ???????????????
I HAVE BLINKERS MOUNTED TO THE [SIZE="3"]REAR FENDER STRUT [/SIZE]BUT DO I NEED THEM IN FRONT TOO??????????
MINE ARE UGLY AND WOULD REALLY LIKE LO LEAVE THEM OFF [/FONT] |
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Dec 26th, 2008, 03:57 AM
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#2 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nova Scotia,Canada
Posts: 671 Model: '90 FLSTC '03 FLHPI
| In most cases if the bike left the factory with signal lights ....you need em to pass inspection.Where I am anyway.
You can try to find smaller "bullet" lights like on the newer Harley's and clamp them on the fork tubes with the same kind of clamps you have mounting them on the bars now. I think you should keep the front sigs and running lights,the more visible you are the better for you and most cagers now don't have a clue what hand signals are. I don't think the rear sigs would work right without fronts hooked up either. |
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Dec 26th, 2008, 05:12 AM
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| yes you need them....for inspections..also prevents faulty vehicle violations...the signal systems requires a certian amount of current draw to work.....that is why when one bulb burns out, that system doesnt work,,,,,alerts you that you have a burned out bulb.....as stated, the more visable you are the safer you may be............have fun,stay safe!!
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Dec 26th, 2008, 08:27 AM
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#4 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 758 Model: '95, '00 Sportsters Interests: Racing & Land-Speed-Record events in particular Occupation: Semi-retired independent contractor (varied fields)
| [COLOR="Navy"]From a purely technical legal standpoint, if the bike didn't come from the factory with front turn signals then it doesn't have to have them, but you should check the FindLaw website to read the statutes/regulations for your State, as there might be a retroactive law/regulation. And as has already been stated, the visibility factor is the common-sense reason to have them.
Personally, I got the "relocation kit" for my Sportsters which moves the front signals from hanging down off the handlebar to either side of the front fork tubes & that cleans up the appearance nicely. There are many aftermarket choices too. My front "blinkers", which are dual filament, staying on all the time as marker lights & flashing brighter as turn signals, are far enough away from the headlight that you can actually see them. That doesn't mean cagers will actually look, but it does make the bikes more visible & beats the heck out of hand signals, which most people on the road aren't old enough to remember anyway  [/COLOR]
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Dec 26th, 2008, 09:06 AM
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#5 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: salt lake city,ut
Posts: 964 Model: 03 883 XLC-CHOPPER Occupation: welder
| Depends On Where You Live And If They Do Inspections Or Not, When I Was In Wash. I Didn't Need The Blinkers Nor Did They Do Inspections, Here In Tx You Have To Have Them If They Came With Them, I Also Have The Big Bulky Ugly Factory Signals On Mine Now Also, Gotta Keep The Cops Off Ya, Don't Want To Give Them Anymore Reasons To Pull You Over. You Can Look Online At The Dot Site For Your State. Or State Patrol Site.
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Dec 26th, 2008, 10:09 AM
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#6 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 26 Model: 2007 Harley Road King
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Originally Posted by SPORSTERBOY Depends On Where You Live And If They Do Inspections Or Not, When I Was In Wash. I Didn't Need The Blinkers Nor Did They Do Inspections, Here In Tx You Have To Have Them If They Came With Them, I Also Have The Big Bulky Ugly Factory Signals On Mine Now Also, Gotta Keep The Cops Off Ya, Don't Want To Give Them Anymore Reasons To Pull You Over. You Can Look Online At The Dot Site For Your State. Or State Patrol Site. | I'm not so sure they're needed in TX either SPORTSTERBOY.
I've always kept the factory signal lights on my scoots, so I have no personal experience. But, the TX DPS website itself indicates in TX you don't need turn signals and DOES NOT state this rule has anything to do with whether or not the bike came with signals from the mfr.
Here's the site I'm referring to for those of us in TX: Texas Department of Public Safety - MSB - FAQs
Check out FAQ #18 at the link for the signal question. |
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Dec 26th, 2008, 10:58 AM
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#7 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: May 2004 Location: Practically Nebraska
Posts: 1,074 Model: '01 FXST Interests: Riding, writing, quilting and ice hockey Occupation: Teach motorcycle riding for ABATE of Colorado
| Relocating my front turn signals was one of the first things I did. As a friend of mine said, "Harley still hasn't figured it out. It looks like someone said, 'I don't know what to do with these, so we'll throw them here.'"
I still wasn't crazy about them, so when I got hit in June and the other insurance was paying for my bike repairs, I got the H-D mirrors with the turn signals built into the back. They are also running lights - stay on all the time. The front end is clean and I have running lights and turn signals. |
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Dec 26th, 2008, 10:34 PM
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#8 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 40 Model: '07 FLHX +
| In addition to the mirrors with the turn signals built into the back, H-D has mirror stems with led turn signals/running lights built into them so you can have custom billet mirrors. They are stock on the V-Rod "Muscle" if you want to check them out. |
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Dec 27th, 2008, 06:15 AM
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#9 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: salt lake city,ut
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| guess your right blackmouth, I looked on the site and in the begining it said all motor vehicels after 1960, then further down it says motor cycles don't require any at all. guess these one day trained inspection people don't even know the laws  they sure checked them. word was if it came equiped with them you had to have them. oh well got them on now  beats hand signals. don't know about anyone else but I like to keep my hands on the bars when turning especially with my front end. Just another reason to get pulled over when that cop doesn't get a eye full of your hand while turning.
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Dec 27th, 2008, 02:19 PM
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#10 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: North Carolina
Posts: 758 Model: '95, '00 Sportsters Interests: Racing & Land-Speed-Record events in particular Occupation: Semi-retired independent contractor (varied fields)
| [COLOR="Navy"]A word of warning from personal knowledge & experience - do NOT take what a Dept. of Transportation official, State police website, etc. says as gospel. They are wrong about so many things & they are not authorized to give you a legal opinion, although they often do. I mentioned FindLaw before & here's a link: FindLaw for Legal Professionals | Law & Legal Information
Yes, it is very time-consuming to look up the particular laws/regulations which apply to your situation, FindLaw is not the only resource & I have a law library from 16 years of looking things up, but FindLaw is free to anyone who has an internet connection & it does have direct links to any State/federal law/regulation in the U.S., plus a lot more, including more recent court decisions.
I got so tired of hearing people tell me what they think the law says, only to find out they were wrong, that I started looking it up for myself (no, I'm not a "licensed attorney"). You can pay someone to do it, but that can get expensive real quick & if you really want to know, you can do it yourself. If I had a dollar for every time I've said, "Don't take my word for it, go look it up" I'd be a rich man - problem is hardly anyone will. [/COLOR] |
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Dec 27th, 2008, 03:32 PM
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#11 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: salt lake city,ut
Posts: 964 Model: 03 883 XLC-CHOPPER Occupation: welder
| Yes Know What Ya Mean, Talked To My Inspection Person Tonight And Told Them They Where Wrong And They Broke Out The Inspection Guidline Book And Sure Enough It Says If The Bike Came Equiped With It You Have To Have It. So In Tx If Your Bike Came With Blinkers It Has To Have It.
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Dec 29th, 2008, 10:01 AM
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#12 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 26 Model: 2007 Harley Road King
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Originally Posted by SPORSTERBOY Yes Know What Ya Mean, Talked To My Inspection Person Tonight And Told Them They Where Wrong And They Broke Out The Inspection Guidline Book And Sure Enough It Says If The Bike Came Equiped With It You Have To Have It. So In Tx If Your Bike Came With Blinkers It Has To Have It. | Thanks for following-up. That's good to know.
Just goes to show...you can never believe everything you read, even on "official" websites. |
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Dec 30th, 2008, 08:37 PM
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#13 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: NYC
Posts: 614 Model: Harley Davidson Interests: Music, Guitars, Art, Architecture, Design, Raptors, Females Occupation: Singer/songwriter/producer/music teacher
| I had mine relocated to the forks and they look just fine there. I'd try that if I were you. I think it's much safer letting oncoming traffic know you're turning. I also like Art Njr's dual filament idea. I think that with three lights up front. the brain extrapolates a bikes location much easier. I may look into that at some point after I pay down my loan a bit and get certain essentials for my new bike. |
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Dec 31st, 2008, 03:14 AM
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#14 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: middleburg, pa
Posts: 714 Model: 06 FLST hertiage, stage 1 1450 pc111 Interests: hunting,wood working Occupation: medical asst. tech/DPW
| the way people can't see bikes i'd recommend all the lights possible. in my opinion they are a great safety thing |
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