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Feb 11th, 2009, 01:06 PM
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| Late 84 flht chain bath anyone out there know much about putting this setup back on . any information would be greatly appreciated |
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Feb 11th, 2009, 06:18 PM
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| if you could elaborate on what it is exactly you want to do, i am sure we can get you through it!!!!!!!
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Feb 11th, 2009, 08:07 PM
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| Yep have to know more of the problum before helping , If it's all there just clean it out
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Feb 11th, 2009, 08:11 PM
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| maybe he is removing a belt and wanting to go back to chain?????
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"FLAGS AND HANDLEBARS SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND"
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."  We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. |
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Feb 12th, 2009, 07:59 AM
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| if'n ya can through a pic or two to discribe your situation throw them in also every little bit will help, the information is here just need to know what info to dish out to ya
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Feb 12th, 2009, 08:04 AM
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| It's not so much a problem, but more a question as to should I put it on or leave it off? I have been told by some to leave it off, they leak. others have said to put it back on. Everything is there, How do you check for chain tension? How do you get the chain on the rear sprocket with that housing already on the wheel? My chain is already through the primary, I have not put the rubber sleeves on the primary yet. Hope this explains my situation a little better. Thanks to all |
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Feb 12th, 2009, 05:54 PM
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| i am assuming you have a belt drive in the primary and it is open???
you want to know if it would be better to have a chain and adjusting shoe??
i dont understand about the rubber sleeves...
you want to replace the drive belt with a chain??
i dont understand your statement about "they leak" the primary chain or drive chain??? i have never seen a drive chain leak, primarys,yes if assembled incorectly......sorry to be repetitive.....more info please...
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"FLAGS AND HANDLEBARS SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND"
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."  We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. |
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Feb 12th, 2009, 08:00 PM
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| Ok if your asking about the drive chain thats up to you to put the auto lube on , if set right they don't leak except when set to lube the chain , My ol 73 shovel head had one that worked like it should but it was part on the maintence about every two months , to adj the drive chain side the wheel all the way forward slid the chain over the top & roll the wheel chain will roll on then slide wheel back top of chain should have no more then 1/4 in play up & down
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Feb 13th, 2009, 06:08 AM
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#9 | | Rookie 10+ posts
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| this bike is chain drive, I am keeping it that way. Cowboy what do you mean by "don't leak except when set to lube the chain"? is'nt that the purpose of the chain bath setup? The leak I'm talking about is the chain bath housing itself. thanks to all who have responded |
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Feb 13th, 2009, 10:51 AM
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| you may have read this before, the the factory service manual will be the best tool in your box!!! it is money well spent!
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LORD, HAVE MERCY ON AMERICA, WHILE WE ARE UNDER DISTRESS
"FLAGS AND HANDLEBARS SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND"
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."  We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. |
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Feb 13th, 2009, 07:46 PM
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| 59hog the chain lube was intended to drop just a bit of lube at a time every so many miles , not to lube all the time & not to leak all over the chain & be thrown on the rear tire
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Feb 13th, 2009, 08:09 PM
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| there is a thumbscrew regulator at the oil pump to control the amount of "drip"....should have a hose comming off it going over to the rear chain....if i am remembering correctly.............
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LORD, HAVE MERCY ON AMERICA, WHILE WE ARE UNDER DISTRESS
"FLAGS AND HANDLEBARS SHOULD NEVER TOUCH THE GROUND"
"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect us. Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in our time of need. Amen."  We plan to meet next week to talk about planning a strategy session to discuss the next step towards forming a consensus to start the development of the rough draft for the implementation of our intention to develop a plan. |
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Feb 14th, 2009, 07:32 AM
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#13 | | Rookie 10+ posts
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| hey chucktx, good advice on the manual, I've always had a manual with all my bikes. Sometimes they just don't explain things well enough. As for the oil hose. Not on this setup the oil stays in the housing on the rear wheel. again thanks to all for help. |
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Feb 14th, 2009, 08:40 AM
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| My bud has an 84 FLHT as his shop, I'll check with him on the amount of oil that goes in the housing and I'll see what other info on it I can dig up for you. |
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Feb 14th, 2009, 12:29 PM
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| I had that on my 84 FXRT..I really didn't ever do anything with it ,but I know adjusting the chain was a guess...The chain riding in the oil bath I thought was a good idea,and the chain would never get dirty,but adjusting would be a problem... |
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Feb 14th, 2009, 07:12 PM
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| darn i was thinking of the style thats inside the primary , I forgot about the i think one year only real wheel oiler
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Feb 15th, 2009, 08:30 AM
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#17 | | Has posted 500+
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Originally Posted by 59 hog It's not so much a problem, but more a question as to should I put it on or leave it off? I have been told by some to leave it off, they leak. others have said to put it back on. Everything is there, How do you check for chain tension? How do you get the chain on the rear sprocket with that housing already on the wheel? My chain is already through the primary, I have not put the rubber sleeves on the primary yet. Hope this explains my situation a little better. Thanks to all | I didn't get to my buds shop but found a manual up at the "Dawg House" last night while having way too many wobbly pops
To check for chain tension
Remove the bolts that hold the upper chain cover in place and slide the cover forward to expose as much of the upper chain run as possible. Use a bungee cord to hold the cover in place.
Turn the rear wheel and check for the tightest point. Mark it and turn the wheel so the mark is on the upper chain run midway between both sprokets and check free play,it should be 1/2" with a rider on the bike.
To adjust the chain, loosen the rear axle nut, then loosen the anchor bolt if it has one, then adjust the chain using the axle adjusters.
Check chain alignment. Then tighten the axle nut to 60-65 ft-lbs then tighten axle adjusters.Release the chain cover and apply a coating of RTV silicone sealant to the chain cover and chain housing mating surface.
Put the screws back in and wipe up any oil that spilled on the housing and tire.
To lube the chain;
Use 50 or 60 wt oil or 20w-50 if thats what you're running.
Park the bike upright, check the oil level by removing the oil level bolt(about the 5 o'clock position on the sprocket housing)
To add oil, pry the oil filler plug from the top front of sprocket housing and add the oil until it starts to come out of the oil level hole, then put the oil level bolt and o ring back in.
To change the chain break the old one at the master link and attach the new chain to the old one and pull it through.
Manuals sure come in handy |
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Feb 15th, 2009, 10:42 AM
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#18 | | Rookie 10+ posts
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| Thanks Lucifer for your help,That answers part of my question, but if they were such a great ideal then,why do some people tell me to get rid of such a setup? The bike was not in working order or condition when I bought it. I ride a 79 flh with open drive chain it has the hose for chain lube as Chucktx refered to. but I know little about this setup. Seems to me that I should be able to get the tension right from your help, I will read over that again in my book. The first thing a biker wrench buddy told me when I bought my first a .72 sporty "get ya a shop (bible) manual". Again thanks to those who helped |
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Feb 15th, 2009, 11:26 AM
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| It does seem like a good set up, it'll keep the chain oiled and dirt and debris out,and be cleaner to run,no oil flying off the chain, just a little more work adjusting the chain is the only drawback I can see with it.
The book also says to adjust rear brake peddle free play after the chain is adjusted |
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Feb 17th, 2009, 06:14 AM
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| 59hog can you post a pic of that set up ?
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