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Apr 6th, 2009, 06:57 PM
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| Stuck Piston I know I shouldn't ask advice about a Jap bike but will anyhow. I've got and old 90 Kaw that has a seized piston in it. I had the head off and looked down inside and can see a few filings on top of the piston. The piston top is a little below top of exhaust port. How can I get it out with out damaging other parts like rod or crank bearings. Hope someone can help.
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Apr 6th, 2009, 09:28 PM
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| i would let it soak in some marvel mystery oil for a week or so
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Apr 7th, 2009, 07:55 AM
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| Yep i would do as chuck said , then wiggle & pull the cyl off
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Apr 7th, 2009, 10:22 AM
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| I would just take a big hammer and beat it out, a big metal one with sharp edges!
No really just soak around the sides with some penetrating solvent/oil
get it to loosen
Now if its shifted and dug into the wall it might not help get it out,
If you know this and it won't come out you may need to get it to a shop so they can bore it out to the next oversize and fit pistons...
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Apr 7th, 2009, 03:54 PM
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| Thanks for the reply's. Will post any updates. |
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Apr 7th, 2009, 04:20 PM
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| I heard that marvels mystery oil is some pretty good stuff...Good luck with project. |
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Apr 7th, 2009, 07:47 PM
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| I wuz jokin about the hammer
But you might need to force it out,
Is the crank out? is the rod still on the piston?
I would be moving it the direction where it could do least amount of damage.
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Apr 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM
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| from the post it sounds like it's still setting on the lower end , so fill her up & let it set then wack it good
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Apr 7th, 2009, 08:05 PM
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| Right now the piston is a about halfway past the exhaust port. I have to find a way to seal the port or all the oil that goes in will run into the exhaust pipe. |
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Apr 7th, 2009, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by hotroadking I wuz jokin about the hammer. | I was thinking the same thing cept I would have said get a 15 pound sledge hammer..
That reminded me of when my buddies and I entered an old Toyota Corolla in our college spring festival day. We had a sledge hammer and sold 5 swings for a buck. People went crazy with that. I think we cleared $150.00 bucks after the beer runs. |
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Apr 8th, 2009, 01:16 PM
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| rag in port
don't fill it up with oil just get some really good penetrating lubricant for stuck things (Liquid Wrench) and spray it around the edge of the piston,
A qt of oil sitting in a cyl isn't going to do any good if its stuck so tight nothing can get through, you need penetration, get the spray and do it a couple of times.
WD 40 evaporates quickly so it won't do you much good.
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Apr 9th, 2009, 02:07 AM
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Apr 12th, 2009, 08:53 AM
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| Pour Diesel fuel in the cylinder and let it break the carbon and everything down. Hope there's not a stuck ring in there.
Yer gonna probaly have to punch it out and see what caused the problem
Carbon is a big enemy to the motors now days.
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Apr 14th, 2009, 05:23 PM
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| I wouldn't worry to much about saving the cylinder, they are nikasoled and you can't bore them, So you can beat it out! |
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Apr 15th, 2009, 12:54 PM
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| Sooooooo
anything happen yet?
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Apr 15th, 2009, 05:10 PM
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| Haven't had time to get anything done yet. I don't believe that the cylinder is made of nicosil. This is an old engine and cylinder isn't sleeved.
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Apr 15th, 2009, 07:11 PM
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At least start squirting some penetration oil every day, that should give it a good time of soaking before you get back to it!~
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Apr 16th, 2009, 08:06 PM
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| I use break fluid to free a siezed piston.Fill it up let it soak then put the bike in gear and rock it back and forth.This has worked for me .Good luck.
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May 31st, 2009, 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hotroadking Sooooooo
anything happen yet? | I finally got to work on the bike today. I put it in gear and rocked it a few times and the motor broke loose. I took the head off and wiped the cylinder wall clean. The wall didn't look to bad. Not to much scoring. I'm going to put in fresh fuel and try to start it. Then I should be able to tell if the bottom end needs to come apart.
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