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Feb 18th, 2005, 02:18 AM
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#1 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,130 Model: 2004 E Glide Standard, Stage 1. Interests: Riding, fishing, hunting, camping, spending time with wife and daughter Occupation: Air Force Nurse
| Just wondering what other's experiances have been with the process of Tuning a power commander on a dyno..... I am looking at the possibility of having one of the "power commander international centers" here in Germany tune my bike. They are estimating 2 hours to do it. They are also quoting about 120 Euros per hour (at the current exchange rate, total for 2 hours would be $300-350)..... is this a reasonable cost or should I wait until I get the bike to the states? Thanks for any input!!!! |
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Feb 18th, 2005, 02:13 PM
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#2 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jun 2004
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| Depends if you can find a downloaded map that is close then you could run it until you get back to the states.
$200 to $300 is about right for a good PC tune. |
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Feb 19th, 2005, 07:14 AM
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#3 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Huntsville, AL
Posts: 41 Interests: work too much for hobbies Occupation: Mechanical Engineer
| I just had my PCIII tuned. It cost me $150 here in North Alabama. I called around and got anywhere from $150-$300 with in a 2 hour drive of Huntsville (4 different places). Some places would have given me a better deal if I had bought the PC from them but I had already bought it from DP for a much lower price than what they wanted. |
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Feb 19th, 2005, 02:58 PM
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#4 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,130 Model: 2004 E Glide Standard, Stage 1. Interests: Riding, fishing, hunting, camping, spending time with wife and daughter Occupation: Air Force Nurse
| Well, sounds like 2 hours is about reasonable.....also sounds like even with the exchange rate being $1.25 to 1 Euro, 2 hours equil to about 240 Euros (around $300) then I use the VAT form (Value Added Tax....Germans pay about 16% taxes and VAT removes the tax) so about 200 Euros or $250ish is reasonable..... unless someone knows a shop in the San Antonio area that does a good job and costs less.......  Hopefully, depending on money and the move, I will have my bike dyno'd before I move back to the states!!!  |
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Feb 22nd, 2005, 10:11 AM
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#5 | | More than 100 posts!
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 102 Occupation: Manufacturing
| AFNurse,
You're coming back to the states?!? That's cool
I had my bike dynoed by one of the few Harley shops that has a dyno and works on PCIII's. The tech was great and let me watch and ask questions while he did the tune. I think he did a great job, and I learned a lot about my engine RPM range and how to optimize my torque based on the gear I'm in and my RPM.
I can't remember what I paid, and I can't find the receipt, but it seems like it was around $200.
If it were me, I'd wait until I got to the states to have the bike dyno'd. I'd think you'd have a bigger selection of dyno shops with HD experience in Texas than you do in Germany. And I'd rather have it dyno'd to the conditions in San Antonio since that's where it'll be ridden most.
I agree with HRK, find a PCIII map download that you can live with for awhile, then have it dyno'd when you get to TX.
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Mar 10th, 2005, 04:29 PM
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#6 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 10
| I have a pc111 myself. I downloaded the map for my exact exhaust/stage 1 kit. My bike seems to run great. Do I need to get my bike dynoed? and if so what is the purpose of even getting the maps of the site if you still need to pay another 200 bucks for dyno? The main reason I went with the PC was so I could install the parts myself and download the maps and hit the road.
any help on this subject would be great.
Thanks |
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Mar 10th, 2005, 08:14 PM
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#7 | | Rookie 10+ posts
Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 19 Interests: Shovelheads Occupation: Military
| No,
There is no reason to get it dyno'd if you are using a good map that is close to your setup and the bike runs good. Of course it won't be "optimum". Having it dyno'd will get your fuel/air mixture exactly correct throughout the RPM range for your particular bike. (at a cost of about $200-$300)
Some say the maps on the website can be a little rich for safety sake and you may suffer a little drop in gas mileage. You can even make minor adjustments yourself on a supplied map if need be.
Personally I feel exactly the same as you on the subject. I got my PCIII USB so I wouldn't have to pay extra money and have someone else change the map when I make engine. (And so far I haven't)
Just think...the MOCO only has three generic maps (Stage 1, 2, and 3) to cover all the different intake, exhaust, and cam configurations. They work, but are nowhere near as accurate as a PC equipped bike with a close map.
Ride, enjoy, and save the money!!!!!!!!!!
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