[SPORSTERBOY]

If Bikers And There Ways Have Become More Acceptable In Todays Society, How Come There Is'nt Many Young Bikers? Why I Say This Is Because I'm In My Mid 30's And Every Biker I Know Is A Old School Biker, Not Metioning The Age, But There All Old Enough To Be My Dad Or Grandpa, Why Is This? Is There Any New School Like Me With Old Schooll Values Out There? Just Thought Some Of You Old Schooler's Might Be Able To Clue Me In On The Big Picture Of What's Going On Out There. It Seems Like My Age And Younger Are Into These Fast Cars And Bike Generation. Not In The Harley Life. Kinda Makes You Feel Like A Outsider Sometimes Because Of The Age Gap.

[bikerjim1]

Changing trends and habits dude. Don't worry, when you become one of the "rusty masses", scooters will be on the rise again.

[Texas Road Glide]

hey sporster......is 20 young enough????? my son for the longest time......made jokes about me being a rebel...........just because of my harley........until we were at a pub.......a young pretty little thing came up and started talking to us............my son using his best lines to get her attention........when she ask if that was his harley...........you should have seen the look on his face..............when he had to say.......no that one is my pops........... i ride that honda.........(wich was a honda 600 cbr) as she was ridin on the back of my bike to go to the next pub.........

my son no longer has the honda.........he bought a 92 flh police bike.....and is fixing it up to ride.......for me it was an american thing on why i bought a harley........i guess my son had other reasons................
so lately i have been kiddin him about buying harley apparrel..........look son it does not have to harley on every thing you buy........smirking......even i dont wear harley cloths.........whatever i have on at the time.........thats what i ride in.......until it gets cold.........then i break out the black boots.....and black leather jacket.........
we hope to have the bike up in running.......in a month or 2........us both being poor....him a full time student holding down a full time job as well...........and me just trying to support the family.........we can only buy our parts a little at a time.......but it is coming together.......and we are seeing progress...........awwwwwwwww the joys of being poor..........

[SPORSTERBOY]

HEY, IT WAS NEVER THE CHICK ISSUE. THEY SEEM TO BE GOING WITH THE FLOW. YEA, THAT'S ALL GREAT IF I WAS STILL SINGLE NOW DAYS I CAN'T EVEN GET THE OL'LADY TO QUIT GIVIN ME CRAP AT THE BAR, AND SHE'S THE BARTENDER I ONLY DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE THE DRINKS STAY STRROONG AND FREE SO WHERE ARE ALL THOSE PEOPLE BUYING BIKES? IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE IN THING TO BE, SO HOW COME PEOPLE MY AGE AIN'T BIKE'N. YEA, THERES FEW AND FAR, BUT IT'S LIKE EVERY ONE ON THIS SITE CLICKS BECAUSE OF AGE. NOT MEANING I'M NOT IN THE CLICK, BECAUSE IT'S A BIKER THING. IF SOME ONE WOULD DO THIS, I WOULD BUT I'VE TRY'D AND AM A LITTLE COMPUTER , DEE, DEE, MAKE A POLE OF AGE PER BIKER? I THINK IT WOULD BE KINDA FUN TO FIND OUT, PLUS IT GIVES US SOME THING TO TALK ABOUT!

[chucktx]

if ya want to see the age of true bikers......go to a rally.....or your local hog chapter
chuck

[Killer-B]

Age? I guess it would all depend on what side of the street your on,,, or simply based on what your reference for old is. As the angle of your dangle is directly proportional to length.

[SPORSTERBOY]

Well..... I Guess I Could Go To The Occ Show, Lol. It's Only 35 Bucks To Watch Them Assemble A Bike, Lol. May Be I'll Go If I Win Some Free Tickits..lol

[maxpower_hd]

I'm now 39 but have been on Harleys since I was about 30. I was on ricers from about 19 til 30. I attend a few of the larger rides in my area, including one this past Saturday. There seem to be Harley riders in my area from all ages. I don't see too many "kids" on them but I see people basically from mid twenties on.

The younger kids either can't swing the payments of a Harley or just have a need for speed. I know I was guilty of both when I was younger. It's pretty tough to find a Harley for $2000-$3000 that can do 85 in second gear.

[GreyBear]

Howdy,
Well I think a big part of the deal is economics......not a lot of "kids" have that type of cash. And it also has to do with (and I don't wanna open this can of worms,as it has been talked to death) what a person considers a biker.
To me, a biker is someone that rides. They have an attachment to thier motorcycle that makes it part of them, just like thier wife, kids and pets. It is part of what they are and how they define themselves. (Wouldn't Dr Phil have a ball with THAT concept, lmao). And they have a bond with others that share that love of the road and two wheels. Now some claim that only 1%ers are true "bikers" some say if you aren't on a Harley you aren't a biker. Heck we had a deal a few months ago that where a fella was saying that dresser riders weren't bikers....(whatever happened to that guy?) And I guess everyone has and is entitled to thier own opinion and definition. I have been a "biker" most of my life. When I graduated from Nortons and Trumpets to HD no one gave me a "now you're a real biker" patch, although they did stop leaving tea bags on my gas tank.
I was tattooing for a friend down in Jacksonville, NC a few weeks ago. If you think that there are no younger bikers (I refuse to call a person who has done a tour in a combat zone a kid no matter what his (or her) chronological age is) check out some of the bars around a military base. A lot of the clubs that are legendary sprang up after WWII. Many more have been around since Nam. The reason a lot of us old farts learned the values true old school bikers have is we learned them from older farts, and a lot of that was learned in the military. Brotherhood, standing up for what ya believe in, discipline, respect, watching each others backs....it is still out there. While a lot of kids are spoiled, self centered and just out for themselves....a lot of the youngsters have a clue. Hell look at you SB.
Ride Free.........

[scooter]

I agree with Grey Bear. And to hop on the wagon with an old adage...."Seek, and ye shall find"...whatever it is you're looking for. Maybe with some things you just have to look a little harder...(Say, authentic Tex-Mex up in Ohio, for instance.. )...the point is, we're all still alive and well. Just keep your eyes open.

scoot

[ptavvs51]

we need folks just like you to carry on.We are a dying breed because we have values,respect and integrity.If that sounds hokey too ****ing bad.There used to be a brotherhood of the road that is almost gone now,Don't let it die.I don't care what you ride.

[ringo912]

Originally Posted by SPORSTERBOY

If Bikers And There Ways Have Become More Acceptable In Todays Society, How Come There Is'nt Many Young Bikers? Why I Say This Is Because I'm In My Mid 30's And Every Biker I Know Is A Old School Biker, Not Metioning The Age, But There All Old Enough To Be My Dad Or Grandpa, Why Is This? Is There Any New School Like Me With Old Schooll Values Out There? Just Thought Some Of You Old Schooler's Might Be Able To Clue Me In On The Big Picture Of What's Going On Out There. It Seems Like My Age And Younger Are Into These Fast Cars And Bike Generation. Not In The Harley Life. Kinda Makes You Feel Like A Outsider Sometimes Because Of The Age Gap.

I think there are a lot of resaons that the new bike culture differs from us old bikers. Thirty to fourty years ago you pretty much had street bikes and off road bikes. The cafe racing bikes, now called sport bikes or crotch rockets were just comming on the scene, but were still most running on race tracks. These bikes offered alot of power and speed for a relatively low cost. So I think economics plays some part in it.

Don't forget, us old schoolers were once young. We also grew up in a different society than we have today. We didn't live in the "me first I'm more important than you, get out of my way world" we have today. We grew up with a true belief in God, country, and family. And we will continue with our beliefs to our last day. We believe in integrety. compassion and comittment.
Being a biker is not something you can buy or win in a contest. It's not about who has the fastest bike or how far you can ride a wheely, or being able to do stoppies on your front wheel.

Being a biker is something that comes from inside. It's a comittment to a way of life. It's something you know you have inside of you. It's about the love and respect for the machine and it becomming an extension of who you are. It's about rolling down the road on 800 pounds of iron and feeling the motor pounding under your a$$ in sinc with the one in your chest. It's about pulling off the road to help a fellow biker that is broke down. It's the gratitude you feel wrenching on your bike or a friends, or like TRG and his son, working together to build something to be proud of. I could go on and on about being a biker, but many good comments have already been made on this subject.

So my young friend be true to yourself. Your real freinds will respect the decisions you make for yourself and will continue to be good friends. If they can't except you for who you are, then you need to find some new friends. And we are outsiders in some ways, but not because of age difference. It's because we are the minority that is committed, by choice, to a lifestyle that most can't follow. So if your ready to pick up the torch and keep us alive, I urge you to do so. Carry the torch with pride and don't ever let the flame burn out.

[firefighterbrad]

You're not alone man. I'm 24 and there's more of us out there than you think.

[voodoochild]

That's good to know Brad.......

[harleyluvr]

Hey sportsterboy! I understand what you are saying. I am 30 now and been riding since I was 17. My first bike was a Honda but I knew it wouldn't last long. I grew up riding with my father and all he ever rode was harley. I grew up around them and thats all I ever wanted. I bought my first harley, a sportster, when I was 19, with lots of crap from my friends. They were all riding rockets but I just couldn't get over the sight and sounds of a Harley.
I now own a Heritage Softail which I built myself. I have two groups of riding friends, my younger friends, most of which ride Ducatis, and an older group who rides Harleys. I have equal amount of fun with either group. Like so many of our friends in here have pointed out its not the age that matters, we all have something in common, a love for the best motorcycle made.

[drillsarge]

I tend to agree with Grey Bear. My future son-in-law rides an R6 and my daughter just bought a new Hyosung 250, Korean made with a Suzuki motor, and they both get it. My daughters heroes are soldiers, and I am one, and her boyfriend since knowing me has found a new level of respect for Harley riders. In the wind is in the wind no matter the ride. Keep safe and look out for each other cause no one else will.

[voodoochild]

Drillsarge, your daughters boyfriend don't respect you........he's scared to death!!!