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Feb 6th, 2008, 04:30 PM
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#21 | | More than 100 posts!
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| Thats a good idea with the marble fling thing. They can't see it. And you do need a witness to confirm a story. that comes from the law. fireitup |
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Feb 6th, 2008, 09:34 PM
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#22 | | 200+ posts and climbing
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Originally Posted by SPORSTERBOY Well Can't You People In Az,and Tx Just Pack A Gun? Seeing A Gun On Your Hip Should Be A Good Deterent. That Is For Those Who Still Have That Right To Do So. Which Still Should Be Given Back After Paying Your Det Back To Society. At Least From My Point Of View. If It Was A Non Violent Chrime. Sounds Like A Go For A New Topic Of Discussion. | Indeed, AZ is "A Right to Carry State". Therefore my IMI Baby Eagle 9mm usually is on my hip, BUT even showing it in a menacing way (either real or perceived by another person) is a crime, so ya gotta be careful!
I'm really tempted to ride around w/ my tricked out Mini14 with a 20 or 30 round magazine in it, but just showing that would cause so many cell calls to the cops, they'd find a way to nail me just for having it.
In short, if you're gonna pack, do so responsibly and don't threaten people or you will lose your right to bear arms.  |
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Feb 6th, 2008, 10:11 PM
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#23 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| very,VERY true!!! |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 05:05 AM
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#24 | | Has posted 500+
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Originally Posted by fujimo first off,,, i do not care who else gets flat tire,,,or who wrecks,,,jerk too close behind,,,going to get nails,,,, , |
All I can say is if there is any justice at all in this world, and any bike hits a damn nail in the road that you or your cronies drop I sure as hell hope it is you or one of them that gets it. Maybe then you will give a little more thought and be more respectful of other bikers.
As far as guns go I am opposed to using them to intimidate other people no matter how much they need it. This only adds fuel to the fire to take away one means of protection from honest folks. It is this sort of thing that gives the Brady crowd more fuel, not to mention putting bikers in a negative light even more than they are now. Being a NRA handgun instructor and having spent many years growing up shooting I can guarantee a handgun round from a moving motorcycle is not as accurate as a pissed off diver in a deathmachine cage. Some jerk on a bike drawls or shows me a handgun in an attempt to intimidate me WILL get fed my bumper just as hard as I can run it up his ass. I am sure a good lawyer could get me out of the trouble with a selfdefense plea since that EVIL biker had a gun and threatened me, and I had no other idea what to do. Anyone sees my handgun they are a friend who I am allowing to see it in a friendly gesture or a corpse standing. Don't drawl unless something is going to be dead to prevent you from being so.  ok rant off sorry but this stuff really torques my nuts
The marble or rock thing on the other hand I like better, but don't forget even with a busted grill or windshield that deathtrap won't be stopped. You just might piss off someone who is already having a REALLY bad day. For me it just ain't worth it, get over let the ******* around you and enjoy the rest of your ride and life.
Besides that this thread has been way highjacked since it was about some dip**** doing 150 into the ass of a cage. My thoughts are it was the genepool cleansing itself. |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 06:33 AM
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#25 | | 200+ posts and climbing
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Posts: 464 Model: 1999 Fatboy Interests: Bikes, Cars, Woodworking, etc. Occupation: Jack of all trades and master of none
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Originally Posted by fujimo first off,,, i do not care who else gets flat tire,,,or who wrecks,,,jerk too close behind,,,going to get nails | So the jerk behind gets nails and your buddy that is a few miles back playing catch up for some reason eats it and that's OK? That's just not cool even if you DON'T know the other biker a few miles back. |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 09:45 AM
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#26 | | 200+ posts and climbing
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Originally Posted by wvak47  Besides that this thread has been way highjacked since it was about some dip**** doing 150 into the ass of a cage. My thoughts are it was the genepool cleansing itself. |  Funny how that seems to happen sometimes, eah?
I agree with you on the "getting even" part, especially w/ a firearm. That's why I posted the caution: Don't even simulate intimidation comments, so to speak! I value my 2nd ammendment rights and do not want to jeapordize them.
Sounds like some anger management classes might be a good thing for some folks.
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Feb 7th, 2008, 10:27 AM
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#27 | | Has posted 500+
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Originally Posted by AZroaddust Sounds like some anger management classes might be a good thing for some folks. |
Me no angry, me TIRED of ignorance......see my sig line it sums it up well for me. I see it from every walk of life, everyday. I sometimes wonder how the human race has lasted on this planet and the dinosaur couldn't make it. People are sooooo dang smart to know nothing. |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 01:59 PM
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#28 | | Has posted 500+
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| JMO
It's not wise to upset the driver of a two ton or more 4 door, steel enclosed mobile killing machine when you are on a two wheeled open sided non protected machine.
Regardless of the reason, if they get really mad, you loose your life.
Down here we have a law that eliminates the "flee first" rule that the liberal courts used to force law abiding citizens to have to consider how to get out of a bad situation before defending themselves with force.
So if you do anything that could be considered hostle and threatening, basically they can shoot you and walk away. (well not literally but you get the point)
No matter how bad a guy you are if you look imposing and like trouble well all the better for the defense of the guy that squashed you on your bike.
He'll just claim it was an accident, nobody will stop to witness it, nobody wants to get involved.
In short, eff em, lifes to short, ride on, get away from them and have a great ride, don't let the bast'ds get you down, or put you down. |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 02:24 PM
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#29 | | Has posted 500+
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Posts: 704 Model: 06 FLST hertiage, stage 1 1450 pc111 Interests: hunting,wood working Occupation: medical asst. tech/DPW
| amen to that. the car will win, and keep on going. i just thank god i don't have that sort of stuff going on around here  , sounds like hell where you guys are riding  think i'd move rather than get killed or end up in prison. i own guns but have rarely carried one, mine are strickly for hunting and sport. i just never have had people trying to kill me. keep in mind it's the ******* driving you want, not his passengers, kids, other vechicles. sometimes you just have to say "F" it and let it go and enjoy the rest of your ride |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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#30 | | More than 100 posts!
Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Kentucky
Posts: 152 Model: 77 H-D FX Interests: my new(to me) bike,UK basketball, listening and DL music Occupation: CNA and Army Reserve Instructor
| I was riding to my daughter's house after class one evening. She and I had a com class together and she was following me cause she didn't trust some of the RICHARD CRANIUM drivers we have in Lexington, Ky. Sure enough she pulls up beside me and says she was gettin' behind me cause some RICHARD in an SUV was tailgaitin. |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 06:00 PM
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#31 | | More than 100 posts!
Join Date: Jan 2008
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Originally Posted by wvak47
All I can say is if there is any justice at all in this world, and any bike hits a damn nail in the road that you or your cronies drop I sure as hell hope it is you or one of them that gets it. Maybe then you will give a little more thought and be more respectful of other bikers.
As far as guns go I am opposed to using them to intimidate other people no matter how much they need it. This only adds fuel to the fire to take away one means of protection from honest folks. It is this sort of thing that gives the Brady crowd more fuel, not to mention putting bikers in a negative light even more than they are now. Being a NRA handgun instructor and having spent many years growing up shooting I can guarantee a handgun round from a moving motorcycle is not as accurate as a pissed off diver in a deathmachine cage. Some jerk on a bike drawls or shows me a handgun in an attempt to intimidate me WILL get fed my bumper just as hard as I can run it up his ass. I am sure a good lawyer could get me out of the trouble with a selfdefense plea since that EVIL biker had a gun and threatened me, and I had no other idea what to do. Anyone sees my handgun they are a friend who I am allowing to see it in a friendly gesture or a corpse standing. Don't drawl unless something is going to be dead to prevent you from being so.  ok rant off sorry but this stuff really torques my nuts
The marble or rock thing on the other hand I like better, but don't forget even with a busted grill or windshield that deathtrap won't be stopped. You just might piss off someone who is already having a REALLY bad day. For me it just ain't worth it, get over let the ******* around you and enjoy the rest of your ride and life.
Besides that this thread has been way highjacked since it was about some dip**** doing 150 into the ass of a cage. My thoughts are it was the genepool cleansing itself. | when have you ever saw a nail cause a blowout or wreck ,,,, it will deflate a tire,,, the last flat i had ,,,was two nails in tire,,, did not blow out but got darn squishy,,,, last blowout was at 65 plus outside rapid city s.d.,,,did not go down,,, two up,,,, you or one of your others may wreck because of nail,,,but probably because canot fell loss of air in seat of your pants...you are right about brandishing marbles ,,rocks,,,guns,,, or whatever,,,, going to do it to wrong person,,,will regret,,for however long you happen to survive,,,, you meet all kinds of idiots on the road,,,last we experienced was truck in virginia in 2006,,,,,14 of us running staggered in right lane,,, truck got really close to last rider,,,, i do not know what he did,,,flip him off or what,,,but he went by us at 65 plus pulled into right shoulder and showered us with rocks and all debri there happened to be there,,,, chipped the crap out of 14 bikes and 3 cars,,,, pulled over ,,,made call to police ,,,he was never caught,,,so much for gestures marbles etc.....he may have done same thing if i had dropped nails,,,,but truck tire costs to stop and repair,,,,some satisfaction there,,,pops |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 07:14 PM
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#32 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| well, this is my thought on this.... |
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Feb 7th, 2008, 07:20 PM
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#33 | | Has posted 500+
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Originally Posted by chucktx well, this is my thought on this.... | I need a sticker of that chuck  |
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