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Apr 14th, 2008, 02:08 PM
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#1 | | 200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Livingston, Tx.
Posts: 427 Model: 08 FLHT Interests: Motorcycles, fishing Occupation: Semi retired locksmith
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Apr 14th, 2008, 03:54 PM
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#2 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: San Antonio, TX
Posts: 1,128 Model: 2004 E Glide Standard, Stage 1. Interests: Riding, fishing, hunting, camping, spending time with wife and daughter Occupation: Air Force Nurse
| whoever submitted that has NO clue on life...... |
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Apr 14th, 2008, 05:22 PM
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#3 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan
Posts: 548 Model: Harley 02' Heritage Classic Interests: Riding Occupation: Riding - Semi Retired
| Probably the same unhappy American that hates Harleys. The world is full of a$$wipes, whoever posted this vid is just one in a line of many we have to deal with on a daily basis. Sad that some people are are so unhappy with their life, the only thrill they have is trying to make other as miserable as they are.  |
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Apr 14th, 2008, 07:27 PM
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#4 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Charlotte, NC
Posts: 1,086 Interests: Anything outdoors (climbing, backpacking, fishing, Mtn biking, riding) Occupation: Chemistry teacher
| All I can say is it will eventually come to haunt them. I believe in Karma and it will go full circle and well we all know what that will mean for those people...  |
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Apr 14th, 2008, 07:34 PM
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#5 | | Very Active Poster 50+
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 81 Model: Harley FLHS 1989 Interests: Food plants, bee keeping, working on any machine, guns, going for a ride! Occupation: NOC tech
| "Help support a socially progressive environment, free of offenses or disruptions to the collective emotional consciousness."
Now that is some weird satire.
They would be better off killing all the deer before worrying about bikers.
I hate deer except on my plate. Try growing food in deer country, you have to set up Level 5 containment zones. And the way they commit suicide on our roads is horrible.
I hope I offended some collective emotional consciousness. |
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Apr 14th, 2008, 07:43 PM
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#6 | | Very Active Poster 50+
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Palo Alto, CA
Posts: 81 Model: Harley FLHS 1989 Interests: Food plants, bee keeping, working on any machine, guns, going for a ride! Occupation: NOC tech
| Did a search, The Delaware Curmudgeon
look in the comments under the video, this satire was not easily digestible. |
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Apr 14th, 2008, 08:35 PM
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#7 | | 200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Livingston, Tx.
Posts: 427 Model: 08 FLHT Interests: Motorcycles, fishing Occupation: Semi retired locksmith
| I was lost for words myself. I couldn't believe what I had just watched.  |
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Apr 14th, 2008, 08:45 PM
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#8 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Oregon City, OR
Posts: 1,136 Model: 09 Ultra Classic Interests: Motorcycles, camping, fishing, old cars Occupation: Home Inspector
| Like Cardboard a lose for words and pretty scarey.  |
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Apr 15th, 2008, 05:59 AM
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#9 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chas WV
Posts: 513 Model: 05 XL883C Interests: shorter list since getting the XL Occupation: Geek for a small family owned company
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Originally Posted by FriendGregory | Yeah read the comments. Also went to the myspace site and found only one video and this one was gone. What distrubed me the most is this useless POS is supposed to be right here in my home state. I only hope his 29 year old dumb a$$ isn't from here and is only here going to college. He was smart enough not to post actual photos of himself though.
That video ticked me off for more than the biker side of it. I am a very non-violet kind of person normally and I would like to give this schmuck some wall to wall counsling. Well just caught this account online on myspace and emailed an inquiry. Lets see what he/they have to say and I will update then.
Last edited by wvak47 : Apr 15th, 2008 at 06:05 AM.
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Apr 15th, 2008, 08:23 AM
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#10 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chas WV
Posts: 513 Model: 05 XL883C Interests: shorter list since getting the XL Occupation: Geek for a small family owned company
| ----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Steve
Date: Apr 15, 2008 5:04 AM
Had your biker video on youtube shot my way. Doing research into this I found Shirley Vandever defending your satire at another location. I would simply like to clear this up and find the real meaning behind this video. As you are being drug through the coals at yet another site. I prefer to know my target before casting stones. I would hate to hold hostile feelings toward someone for a simple misunderstanding.
----------------- Original Message ----------------- From: the Blood and Thunder Club
Date: Apr 15, 2008 9:04 AM Steve,
Thanks for checking in.
I set the video to private because most of the people who are seeing it are misunderstanding it. So you may not be able to view it now...
TEARTS is a fictional organization that represents all those people that superficially pass judgment on something they can't identify with or understand. People that not only disapprove, but cheerfully wish hurt and harm on anyone who insults or challenges them. It's critical of the idea that to make someone uncomfortable is a kind of crime.
My concern is with a culture that's moving toward a "wish you were dead" mentality towards anyone that says or does something unpopular. The biker could really have been anyone society considers rebellious.
----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Steve
Date: Apr 15, 2008 6:25 AM
Thank you for your time and response. I will (with your permission of course) post your reply to my inquiry on the board to try to reduce hostile feelings and set the record straight. Maybe a caption at the end to provide this insight would stop some of the bashing you are receiving LOL. Not everyone is quick witted enough to understand your satire. This is a semi-understandable defensive reaction from those already persecuted by a stereotype.
Again thanks for clearing this up and setting us quick temperd straight. FINAL REPLY
Sure, post this if you like.
I may just pull the video down since it's causing more outrage and confusion than understanding. But again, thanks for writing. |
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Apr 15th, 2008, 09:36 AM
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#11 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: lake jackson,tx
Posts: 906 Model: 03 883 XLC-CHOPPER Occupation: welder
| Tearts Definition Sounds Alot Like The Same One From The Past They Use For The Kkk And All The Other Racist Organizations. Isn't Charlie Doing Life For Sayin I Wish You Where Dead, In My Head? So Technically If Someone Acually Went Out And Killed Some Bikers They Could Catch The Charge For Conspiricy To Comit Murder. Guess I'm A Little Slow Because I Didn't See The Video Any Where. Only Could Coment On What I Read In The Posts. |
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Apr 15th, 2008, 12:27 PM
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#12 | | Newbie
Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Delaware
Posts: 1 Model: 2005 Geezer Glide
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Had your biker video on youtube shot my way. Doing research into this I found Shirley Vandever defending your satire at another location.
| I am Shirley, aka GirlGeek. As a matter of reference, me and the old man Chainsaw are bikers ( http://www.soeastbiker.com), we proudly fly the Confederate flag, and the old man looks pretty close to the biker in this clip.
When this video came over another list, we were understandably upset. Then I noticed the tags of "parody" and "satire" (when it was on MySpace). I watched it again, and eventually "got" what the author was saying. I posted it on my blog ( The Delaware Curmudgeon) and got a visceral response. Once I found that it moved to YouTube (if it is even still there), I decided not to repost it. Just too disturbing to people.
I don't purport to defend the maker of this video, just to say I understand what he/she is trying to say. It was just a little obtuse, and not immediately clear which of course would cause people to be outraged. I wish that at the end he had shown the biker's family mourning his loss...that would have made the circle of discrimination complete.
Satire at its best is supposed to be biting, perhaps controversial, and make you think. The video asks the question, "Do we just get rid of those who are different from us?" The message here was probably not made quite clear enough, making some thinking that the author advocated killing bikers. That was the main fault I found with it. |
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Apr 15th, 2008, 12:53 PM
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#13 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chas WV
Posts: 513 Model: 05 XL883C Interests: shorter list since getting the XL Occupation: Geek for a small family owned company
| Hey welcome to BT Shirley (GirlGeek). Thanks for coming by and saying hey and filling us in with more information.
Might you and your Ol' Man be in WV? Nevermind see Delaware there now
Last edited by wvak47 : Apr 15th, 2008 at 12:54 PM.
Reason: I read profile a bit LOL
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Apr 16th, 2008, 09:51 AM
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#14 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: lake jackson,tx
Posts: 906 Model: 03 883 XLC-CHOPPER Occupation: welder
| now how did she even know we where discussing the video  wish i knew where to see it. |
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Apr 16th, 2008, 10:08 AM
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#15 | | Administrator Frequent Posting Club
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Posts: 1,273 Model: Harley FLHX Occupation: Web Developer by day, 25+ years of carb building by day, hey what happened to my day?!
| I never got to see it, but it sounds like a misguided joke gone wrong. Maybe Don Imus should give it a try  |
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Apr 16th, 2008, 10:30 AM
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#16 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chas WV
Posts: 513 Model: 05 XL883C Interests: shorter list since getting the XL Occupation: Geek for a small family owned company
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Originally Posted by SPORSTERBOY now how did she even know we where discussing the video  wish i knew where to see it. | Might have had a little to do with my conversation with the host of the video on Myspace LOL. Also if she was monitoring her own blog then she seen all the traffic coming from this site and the other link and came to see who we were. |
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Apr 28th, 2008, 06:03 PM
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#17 | | 200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago
Posts: 429 Model: Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide Interests: Motorcycling, Duhh...Shooting, camping, going to country music concerts Occupation: Firefighter/Paramedic
| I guess I need to check in here more often.....Cant view it now...Private |
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Apr 28th, 2008, 07:23 PM
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#18 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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Originally Posted by FlynDutchman I guess I need to check in here more often.....Cant view it now...Private | yes you do!!!! we miss your posts!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Apr 28th, 2008, 07:26 PM
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#19 | | 200+ posts and climbing
Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Chicago
Posts: 429 Model: Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide Interests: Motorcycling, Duhh...Shooting, camping, going to country music concerts Occupation: Firefighter/Paramedic
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Originally Posted by chucktx yes you do!!!! we miss your posts!!!!!!!!!!  | Thanks....I go in spurts...Dont like to get tied to the computer too much...Probably wouldnt be on here at all today if it wasnt raining out....you get the idea. |
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Apr 28th, 2008, 07:32 PM
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#20 | | Has posted 500+
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Michigan
Posts: 548 Model: Harley 02' Heritage Classic Interests: Riding Occupation: Riding - Semi Retired
| Good to hear from ya Dutch, was wondering where you've been. |
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