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Jul 27th, 2006, 12:41 PM
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What's the deal with the industry and the limited / lack of accessories for Dyna's? It seems, from my point of view, that if you have a Softtail or Sportster, even bagger, you can just about get anything under the sun, but when it comes to a Dyna, other than a Wide Glide, you have to deal with slim pickins! I know for a fact that Dyna's sell great, but it seems kinda biased. If they develop parts for all the other scoots they produce, why not Dyna!!?! In actuality, thinking about it, any of the aftermarket producers are the same way. I see more s**t for Softtails than anything else, and when new parts are developed, again, it seems those are predominately directed towards Softtails! Is it a ploy to get folks to give their current ride for a Softie? Am I missing the "golden website" specifically for Dyna's?
Sorry guys, just frustrated. I'm going with a fatbob rear fender for my scoot and am having to resort with a rigid fender blank. If I had a Sporty of Softtail, it would be custom tailored with all holes pre drilled. Also looked over the strutless, but again, it seems to be mostly directed towards the Softies.   | 
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Jul 27th, 2006, 01:01 PM
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| Development is based on demand. Demand is developed by sales volume. The Dyna is the slowest selling Big Twin. The Softail by far is the most popular and if you are developing products you will always target the Softails because it will get you the fastest return on your investment.
There are many more Softails than Dyna's customized and since a lot of rigids use Softail fenders.....
Flip side?
Most performance pieces will work on any TC or EVO. There are tons of pipes etc. Wheels..? By the ton. Different fuel tanks, front fenders etc. | |
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Jul 27th, 2006, 01:25 PM
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What's killing me is, if they don't produce it, how can it sell or be a demand? I mean, if there wasn't sooo much production for the softtail aftermarket, there wouldn't be as many customized softtails. I understand that the Dyna is the slowest selling family of bigtwins, but it boggles me that these producers can almost tune a deaf ear to the Dyna. I would imagine if the sales of Dyna's was so low, Harley would probably discontinue those models or maybe even the entire Family line  . I agree, I can find front fenders through most of the aftermarket Co's out there and many other things specifically for FX frames, but again, it's just frustrating to see the market move so fast forward for some models while others get dusted . Do you know where I can find a strutless rear fender for a Dyna?  | |
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Jul 27th, 2006, 03:34 PM
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| No, but there is more to it than that. A strut less fender would require modifying the existing struts and / or welding or a combination of both. Creating the fender would not be the problem IMHO. It would be the number of units the manufacturer estimates would sell and the price they would have to charge to make it profitable.
I had developed a product that would redirect the breather into the carb inlet on the older SE backing plates. Neat piece, works great but....by the time we looked at the manufacturing cost and a decent profit the retail was over $70.00. To get a good manufacturing price we would need a minimum run of 2,000 units. What if they didn't sell? By the time you bought one of these, another $30.00 would get you a Big Sucker. Just not a wise way to go IMHO.
I understand your frustration believe me. I have owned a lot of FXR's and if you think the Dyna is bad the FXR would drive ya nuts  . If you wanted to modify the tanks or fenders...get out the tools.
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Jul 27th, 2006, 08:59 PM
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looking for that you can't find?
just curious all I've owned has been sporties and dynas.....love the wide glides.only had to "customize" (one year a while back)some chrome clamps to get around the forks for a windshield I borrowed from my buddy's low rider...other than that what can't you find...what I really want they do not make and that is a mechanical temp gauge for it. Only digital. not sure I want that on there been debating that one for years...
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Jul 27th, 2006, 10:27 PM
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| [quote=. I see more s**t for Softtails than anything else, and when new parts are developed, again, it seems those are predominately directed towards Softtails! Is it a ploy to get folks to give their current ride for a Softie? Am I missing the "golden website" specifically for Dyna's? :[/QUOTE]
Yes, that is why I built a custom Dyna Wide Glide instead of a softail, it seemed like half the Harley population rode a softail. I’m a little abrasive, so I liked going against the flow. Be a proud Dyna rider…There are parts out there, but you have to look and ask, if you see someone with a part you like, ask him where he got it. He will be happy to tell you.
Oh ya, the term Softail is a misnomer, there is nothing soft about a shock that gives you maybe, 2 inches of travel. I love my swing-arm…
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Jul 27th, 2006, 10:53 PM
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| Dyna's are cool, no doubt. Good handling, good ride, real style. I like my King, but if not for it I'd have a Dyna in a heartbeat.
Never understood the appeal of the Softtails. I know I'll piss some folks off, but what's with that pretending to be a hardtail and having such less useful a suspension than a Dyna or FL? I'm all for good looks - but after functionality.
Got a pal with a 103 Deuce. He can't ride that thing for over 150 miles without needing a minimum of an hour out of the saddle. If you can't ride it, it's just a show pony to me. I know others are more comfy on their 'Tails, but nothing beats a suspension that is about feel of the ride instead of the look in the parking lot | |
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Jul 27th, 2006, 11:40 PM
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| My opinion of softail’s are: that they have a low seat height, which IS the main selling point, and many parts to choice from.
Oh ya, the A-motor (Dyna) is better too.
O.K. softailers, let me have it.
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Jul 28th, 2006, 06:04 AM
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#9 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| Guys,
I truely appreciate all the support on Dyna's. Sometimes seems like a lonely world out there when you own one. Appreciate the positive comments from all.
C.D., I have to agree with ya on the fact that basically, if I want custom, I'll have to fabricate. Not a problem, as I'm pretty handy with metal fab. I just suck badly with paint. Guess I'll farm out the pro work when I get to that horizon.  | |
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Aug 15th, 2006, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Red Rider Dyna's are cool, no doubt. Good handling, good ride, real style. I like my King, but if not for it I'd have a Dyna in a heartbeat.
Never understood the appeal of the Softtails. I know I'll piss some folks off, but what's with that pretending to be a hardtail and having such less useful a suspension than a Dyna or FL? I'm all for good looks - but after functionality. | I couldn't agree more. I've always liked FXR and Dyna over Softails. Wife wanted nothing to do with anything but a Dyna.
My next choice would be a true rigid but don't know if my back would like it.
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Aug 16th, 2006, 09:55 AM
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#11 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| Yeow,....watch out for the pot-holes if ya go rigid! Been there, done that, done WITH that!!! | |
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Aug 16th, 2006, 10:38 AM
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| Listen'n to all you dyna boys whinning is gonna make me puke
Ohhh I don't have parts to bolt on
ohhh I can't find a fender
booo hooo! 
Real manly men ride Softails, we don't need bargobagger seats and luggage racks with chome doodads, nope bungee cords for me, that's a real biker!
Yep the softails look cool thats the reason I ride one, and it's even cooler with me on it! 
LOL hope y'all don't get all upset and such about this just having fun! | 
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Aug 16th, 2006, 10:46 AM
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Or could it be that the dyna line is SOOOOO perfect you dont have to spend a ton to make 'em cool? LMAO
OK that was a joke so dont anybody get thier panties in a wad....course all jokes in order to be humorous must have some basis in fact....<WEG>
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Aug 16th, 2006, 10:54 AM
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| We're gonna get our ears boxed in aren't we. 
Simple Softails exist because they are the sexy line of the Motor Company,
Nobody drools over bagger, well except bagger owners and most of them are so old it just happens to be that they drool everywhere so maybe that is the cause. hhmm
Dynas are great second starter bikes, once you master them you can pop on over to a Softail, dynas were made for the candy butt riders that don't want to be seen on a bagger (which is commendable) but need a special seat and shocks to help them ride over 100 miles. | |
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Aug 16th, 2006, 11:10 AM
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| Yeah, but you failed to mention that the seats and shocks are for supporting the weight shift from squinting in the mirror looking for the "softie" in the background!! Just kiddin' also, fellas! | |
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Aug 16th, 2006, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hotroadking We're gonna get our ears boxed in aren't we.
Simple Softails exist because they are the sexy line of the Motor Company,
Nobody drools over bagger, well except bagger owners and most of them are so old it just happens to be that they drool everywhere so maybe that is the cause. hhmm
Dynas are great second starter bikes, once you master them you can pop on over to a Softail, dynas were made for the candy butt riders that don't want to be seen on a bagger (which is commendable) but need a special seat and shocks to help them ride over 100 miles. | Hey I plead guilty to all the above....of course after doing the rigid thing for years I still flinch when I see a rut in the road. (Speaking of which was anyone else ever stupid enough to take a perfectly good swingarm and strut it?) As to softie being the sexy line....yeah I guess they are. But ya know what women say about guys and sportscars.....are softies so popular cause some of us need to compensate?
<slaps himself> sorry that was low, hehehehehe!!!!
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Aug 16th, 2006, 01:07 PM
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| Yeah I need to compensate for a lot of things, went to the doctor he said you're fat, I said I wanted a second opinion and he said, "ok you're ugly too"
bada bing
So I boughta softail I need all the hep I kin get! | |
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Aug 16th, 2006, 01:45 PM
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We must have the same doctor!!
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Aug 16th, 2006, 05:27 PM
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| The only soft tail for me is a woman's! I'll ride that one for as long as the trip takes..... | |
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Aug 16th, 2006, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by hotroadking We're gonna get our ears boxed in aren't we.
Simple Softails exist because they are the sexy line of the Motor Company,
Nobody drools over bagger, well except bagger owners and most of them are so old it just happens to be that they drool everywhere so maybe that is the cause. hhmm
Dynas are great second starter bikes, once you master them you can pop on over to a Softail, dynas were made for the candy butt riders that don't want to be seen on a bagger (which is commendable) but need a special seat and shocks to help them ride over 100 miles. | Ouch man! us decker guys just chug along..get the bike grubby and make it work for a living and leave the "looking good" for the Softails. I can see you guys taking a pass on a bagger for a softail but for you folks that passed on an FXR for a Softie...you guys missed out......  I know....so does CD and any other that swung a leg over a FXR
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