[Killer-B]

Thought you guys might like this...

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...GNEWS/60905003

Its a real shame for both parties involved, I hope Mr. Lane was not DUI.

[GreyBear]

Well I don't know about Florida, but up here Lanes butt is hung out to dry DUI or not. When he passed on a double yellow line that made it reckless driving and in the case of a fatality manslaughter. It's a bad scene when bike riders don't pay anymore attention than cagers do. Course no matter what happens legally Lane is gonna have to carry that weight the rest of his life.....and that's a heavy one to tote.

Ride Free............

[Killer-B]

Yup, no excuses at all, he’ll probably hang for this one. Its his fault all the way, passing two cars over the double yellow. My money’s on that he was under the influence; holiday evening, young chicky with him. Anyway, he will lose a lot over this one, after the state gets done with him, then the guy’s family will sue the hell out of him.
Not to mention the Discovery Channel will drop him like a hot potato.
Another celebrity with more money than common sense...

[Killer-B]

Oh ya, one more thing...
>>>> It's a bad scene when bike riders don't pay anymore attention than cagers do.<<<<
Please,,, just because someone rides a bike, doesn’t automatically make them a good driver/rider. Some of the guys I’ve seen on bikes shouldn’t be allowed to walk on the sidewalk let alone operate a motor vehicle.

My .02

[GreyBear]

<<<Oh ya, one more thing...
>>>> It's a bad scene when bike riders don't pay anymore attention than cagers do.<<<<
Please,,, just because someone rides a bike, doesn’t automatically make them a good driver/rider. Some of the guys I’ve seen on bikes shouldn’t be allowed to walk on the sidewalk let alone operate a motor vehicle. >>>

Never said it did Killer B. Just that anyone that does something usually has more awareness of whats involved than someone that doesn't. And Lanes been around the scene for a while. It is always particularly sad when a person that has knowledge in a field drops the ball, whether it's a biker in a case like this or an electrician that fries his butt.Just like the resaon that having a hunting license and some cammo clothes don't get you an invite to our hunting camp. I am with you on the influence deal. Between that and wanting to impress some little honey.........


Ride Free........

[FLHTbiker]

Originally Posted by Killer-B

Oh ya, one more thing...
>>>> It's a bad scene when bike riders don't pay anymore attention than cagers do.<<<<
Please,,, just because someone rides a bike, doesn’t automatically make them a good driver/rider. Some of the guys I’ve seen on bikes shouldn’t be allowed to walk on the sidewalk let alone operate a motor vehicle.

My .02

Yep, second that one and they can't chew gum and ride either.

[chucktx]

Originally Posted by Killer-B

Thought you guys might like this...

http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...GNEWS/60905003

Its a real shame for both parties involved, I hope Mr. Lane was not DUI.

well killer, i didnt like it, but i am glad you posted it.. ...some folks just dont use the sense god gave them!!!!! time will tell if he was drinking, cant believe passing on a double yellow........
chuck

[Killer-B]

Your absolutely right Chuck,
I should have said: thought you guys might find this interesting…

[hotroadking]

NO excuses for what he did, if you've ever driven on A1A in that area it's a two laner, and lots of folks just cruise it way under the speed limit (outoftowners) gets aggrevating to ride that road, but he shouldn't have passed.

There are a lot of sections no longer marked for passing for no apparent reason other than to slow down traffic.

My bet is on booze and who knows what else was going on.

[bikerjim1]

I'm with HRK on this one. He should have known better.

[Killer-B]

Here is an update on the Billy Lane episode. No charges filed YET..
An interesting read…
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...GNEWS/60906018

[FLHTbiker]

I hope at least the family sues him, big time.

[bikerjim1]

Absolutely! It's crap like that that keeps the dark cloud looming over the other bikers' heads in the general public's view. IMOA, Billy Lane sucks and I wouldn't have anything produced from him for any amount of money! Careless and wreckless negligence is absolutely in-excusable.

[CD]

Originally Posted by bikerjim1

Absolutely! It's crap like that that keeps the dark cloud looming over the other bikers' heads in the general public's view. IMOA, Billy Lane sucks and I wouldn't have anything produced from him for any amount of money! Careless and wreckless negligence is absolutely in-excusable.

I can understand a suit for a resonable settlement....Unfortunately, once again a lawyer will get richer and a family will still suffer. Suing is not always the solution...Do you really think O.J. is hurting that badly? Our instant reaction to an incident like this is "sue"!!!! I really would like to see a judicial system that punished him for his crimes and awarded the family a fair settlement. The unfortunate reality is that the only winners in the suit lottery are the ones wearing the shark skin suits.

"Careless and wreckless negligence is absolutely in-excusable."

True, but the reality is that unless we have lived a very, very sheltered life, none of us should throw stones at glass houses. If I were to be held accountable for each and every time I went over the line.... I would probably still be in jail.

Take a second to think of how many times we have made errors in judgement that could have had serious consequences for yourself or others.

This is JMHO but why are we so quick to convict before the facts are out?
What if he had a siezure? Is he an undiagnosed Epileptic?
What if there was a part failure?

Truth is, we do not know the facts, only what has been reported so far.

So many "Bikers" were quick to condemn Indian Larry for his "reckless actions" and not wearing a helmet. Those same "Bikers" watch Biker Build Off and admired Larry for his individualism..Oxymoronic Ain't it?

The "Steve Irwin was an idiot" wagon train is already forming.....The kids in the SUV's with DVD players are watching Animal Planet re-runs..

If Lane was at fault and he was under the influence he should pay big time. The full book should be thrown at him with no lienency. A1A is a zoo road on a slow day much less Bike Week. If he is guilty, he will probably loose everything anyway and the family certainly deserves compensation.

[hotroadking]

CD well said, on other boards it's the same way, people have jumped on the "kick him while he's down" bandwagon.

No hard facts, simple article, we know the outcome of the actions, we don't know what caused it.

If he was drinking and over the limit and showing off he'll get what is coming to him.

Interesting that he was released from the Hospital and the gals still in the emergency room.

Shidt happens, heck I look back at the times I was driving and drinking like I did in School and it's a miracle I'm alive and nobody else was hurt.

[FLHTbiker]

Originally Posted by hotroadking

CD well said, on other boards it's the same way, people have jumped on the "kick him while he's down" bandwagon.

No hard facts, simple article, we know the outcome of the actions, we don't know what caused it.

If he was drinking and over the limit and showing off he'll get what is coming to him.

Interesting that he was released from the Hospital and the gals still in the emergency room.

Shidt happens, heck I look back at the times I was driving and drinking like I did in School and it's a miracle I'm alive and nobody else was hurt.

Shidt happens my as$, you don't do that and that does not excuse it or make it all right either. Double lines means no passing if you do that means you broke the law. Just think if that was you or I on our motorcycle. I still think the man should spend some time in jail to contemplate the whole thing and there should be a monetary loss out of his pocket book that he could feel for a long time for doing such a stupid act.

From reading the article it was pretty plain to see what caused the accident, him, Billy Lane. Wether he was drinking or not his actions killed a 56 year old man who sounds like was a pretty good guy. Billy may as well have taken a 44 cal. handgun and shot the guy in the head. What's the difference, oopps I didn't know the gun was loaded I'm sorry that was just an accident.

[CD]

Originally Posted by FLHTbiker

Shidt happens my as$, you don't do that and that does not excuse it or make it all right either. Double lines means no passing if you do that means you broke the law. Just think if that was you or I on our motorcycle. I still think the man should spend some time in jail to contemplate the whole thing and there should be a monetary loss out of his pocket book that he could feel for a long time for doing such a stupid act.

From reading the article it was pretty plain to see what caused the accident, him, Billy Lane. Wether he was drinking or not his actions killed a 56 year old man who sounds like was a pretty good guy. Billy may as well have taken a 44 cal. handgun and shot the guy in the head. What's the difference, oopps I didn't know the gun was loaded I'm sorry that was just an accident.

Marc,
My point was and still is that condemning someone for what is written in an article based on the preliminary accident report is way out of line. Because he is a public figure, he will be in the news. I'll bet you that it would not have even made a minor mention on CNN if it was Joe Smith. Instant headline, instant slant and not even done with the preliminaries.

Didn't you ever do anything stupid? We all have done stupid things unless we walk an extremely narrow path. If people suffer or we damage property we should pay, plain and simple. If nothing happens to anyone, no property is damaged and you walk away, lesson learned.

As I said before, if Billy Lane is found guilty he should be punished to the full extent of the law and should pay restitution. Without all of the fact before us saying he is guilty and condemning him is more vigilantism than lawful action.

[hotroadking]

Shidt does happen, there are a lot of good decent people that have made serious mistakes that have cost them thier lives, others lives, jobs, marriages, jail time, up and till that moment they were good people, but one bad action and it defines you as an outcast.

Yes this is a travesty, and yes we all feel for the guy on the Moped. It's interesting that he's being referred to as a biker when I doubt any biker would wave to a moped rider. But he's on two wheels so its brotherhood of a sort.

Who said anything about making it right or excusing the action, I certainly didn't so where that came from is beyond me.

The point was made in my comment "If he was drinking and over the limit and showing off he'll get what is coming to him." Nobody said he should walk because he's BL, or any other "biker star"

My feelings are that Many are condemming the whole deal because the newspaper wrote it makes it the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? That's asking a bit much of any rational person to believe, the facts are not all there.

I try not and judge peoples actions based on newspaper articles, ie Jon Benet Ramsey,

[FLHTbiker]

[quote=Shidt happens, heck I look back at the times I was driving and drinking like I did in School and it's a miracle I'm alive and nobody else was hurt.[/QUOTE]


Sorry hotroadking if I read more into what you were saying when you said Shidt happens. The thing is yes we all have made mistakes and have done stupid thing. However, I've never killed anyone by doing so and pray that I never would. I'm sure or at least I hope he would feel the same way.

I meant Billy Lane here in Portland a few years back at a bike show and my instant opinion of him was MR. Attitude.

Your all right because it was involving a celebrity it made the head lines, always does with celebrities. He will probably get probation and then the family will sue. Maybe the lawyers will get most of it as they do seem to most of the time. If he is in the wrong I still hope it hurts him big time in the wallet.
Just got back from a ride today, I went for a ride to a T-shirt and embroidery shop to make an order for more and new business shirts and hats. On the way back headed down HWY. 99-East an older women pulls out from the right onto the 4 lane highway. She is turning the same direction I'm headed on my bike. Instead of pulling into the inside lane like she should have she crosses clear over into my lane causing me to brake hard to avoid running into the back side of her. That's a stupid error on her part and she could have as easily have killed me had I been just a second or to closer. I know she didn't see me and made the mistake of crossing over to the outside lane for no reason (there is no left turn along that stretch of road). She did a stupid thing and I could have paid the big price for her error. Had she killed me she would have got away with it scott free I'm sure. So, shidt happens but it don't make it right and there is no justifying it.

[Killer-B]

It can turn my stomach sometimes how television, news papers and the tabloids can bend things around to sensationalize what ever they feel. With that said, I really don’t know how they can bend or exaggerate the fact that Mr. Lane crossed over double yellow lines to pass two cars and hit Mr. Morelock, head-on. Sad.
Even if it was the Pope that was driving his Pope mobile, I would still expect and want him to go to jail for taking the life of another human being.
I am all for: innocent until proven beyond any doubt to be guilty. Mr. Lane sure looks guilty to me.
As HRK said, that is a bad road and people can get mad or irritated. Looks to me Billy got a little too impatient and did something very foolish.
JMO.

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http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbc...609070331/1006