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Jul 3rd, 2007, 01:43 PM
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#1 | | Administrator Has posted 500+
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Thank to a Supreme court decision, you better get ready to pay a lot more for your parts. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/wa...eme%20Court%20
If you think nothing will change, you don't know the owners of Drag (Rinehart), V&H, T-Bag, S&S and others very well.
Thank you President "I am really Cheney's puppet" Bush. | 
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Jul 3rd, 2007, 03:58 PM
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| I don't see the ruling being that bad. It only addresses "per se" rulings. I guess I'd have to say I would always support the "rule of reason" over automatic/autocratic decisions.
As to the Bush/Cheney thing, I can't agree either. Met VP Cheney, and he would not have been the same President as Bush has been, not at all. He's really been more the military-style "Executive Officer" as far as I have ever seen. More of a loyal subordinate than the press makes out. But then wasn't Karl Rove the designated "Master of the Universe" last time I checked? 
Doesn't matter, we're all dead from global warming next week anyway...... | |
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Jul 3rd, 2007, 04:31 PM
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#3 | | Administrator Has posted 500+
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| Hi Red,
Actually, it has a direct affect on retail MAP and the Internet. It killed my case against Lemans as it allows for distributors to set minimum pricing standards. Where you could control advertising but not pricing you now can control both. So, now not only can Drag tell retailers that you cannot advertise below MRSP, hint at a sale, offer a rebate etc, etc, they can now tell you the absolute lowest price you can retail the items for.
Now, policies that say no advertising below MAP and no sales under say, 20% off of list price are now 100% valid.
I guarantee you that it will have a direct and rapid affect on Ebay and discounted pricing.
The days of being able to get good deals and competitive pricing are limited. | |
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Jul 3rd, 2007, 08:15 PM
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| Hmmmmmm... not sure what this will do. I see some big producers possibly being involved in a price war in order to kill off some smaller companies... then they can jack the prices as they see fit. Not sure where this will go... though I agree that it will likely not be to the consumer's benefit. | |
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Jul 3rd, 2007, 09:14 PM
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#5 | | Moderator Has posted 500+
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| harley got rid of the mom and pop indy wrenches.....now it looks like good by to the mom and pop parts sellers..........man, everybody is getting on the wallyworld band wagon.......push em all out of busisness..... | |
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Jul 3rd, 2007, 09:23 PM
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#6 | | Has posted 500+
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Posts: 1,726 Model: 03 E Glide X cop bike Interests: My family Old Dodge truck's Riding My Glide Occupation: Retired truck Driver
| Look's to me more like a wate & see , because it will cover everthing we need to live  from new sock's to new cars, & you just have toknow all the part's manufacture's will soak us big time hell they already do that  | |
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Jul 4th, 2007, 11:06 AM
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| Just a theory, but couldn't this actually work against stores like Walmart? If a product price becomes fixed (min/max) then places like Walmart could no longer undercut smaller retailers with huge discounts. I'm probably fooling myself with that theory, since Walmart's lawyers have likely already found the loopholes to allow them to continue fleecing small business and American workers.
As far as major distributors like Drag, they can pound sand in my opinion. While their book may be on the counter of almost every shop, they have also made it their mission to eliminate competition and leave resellers little room for profits. As an entrepreneur myself in this industry I've stuck to independently distributing and selling my own products and ideas. I may not end up retiring on that sandy beach, but at least I leave a legacy to my children that I never sold out to corporate greed. | 
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Jul 5th, 2007, 06:49 PM
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#8 | | Has posted 500+
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Originally Posted by kenfuzed  Just a theory, but couldn't this actually work against stores like Walmart? If a product price becomes fixed (min/max) then places like Walmart could no longer undercut smaller retailers with huge discounts. I'm probably fooling myself with that theory, since Walmart's lawyers have likely already found the loopholes to allow them to continue fleecing small business and American workers.
As far as major distributors like Drag, they can pound sand in my opinion. While their book may be on the counter of almost every shop, they have also made it their mission to eliminate competition and leave resellers little room for profits. As an entrepreneur myself in this industry I've stuck to independently distributing and selling my own products and ideas. I may not end up retiring on that sandy beach, but at least I leave a legacy to my children that I never sold out to corporate greed. | That's better to me than the sandy beach anyday Ken!! Good for you bro! Looks like it'll be me, you, and maybe a few more of us. | |
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Jul 5th, 2007, 07:18 PM
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#9 | | 200+ posts and climbing
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Posts: 429 Model: Harley-Davidson Dyna Superglide Interests: Motorcycling, Duhh...Shooting, camping, going to country music concerts Occupation: Firefighter/Paramedic
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Originally Posted by CD Hi Red,
Actually, it has a direct affect on retail MAP and the Internet. It killed my case against Lemans as it allows for distributors to set minimum pricing standards. Where you could control advertising but not pricing you now can control both. So, now not only can Drag tell retailers that you cannot advertise below MRSP, hint at a sale, offer a rebate etc, etc, they can now tell you the absolute lowest price you can retail the items for.
Now, policies that say no advertising below MAP and no sales under say, 20% off of list price are now 100% valid.
I guarantee you that it will have a direct and rapid affect on Ebay and discounted pricing.
The days of being able to get good deals and competitive pricing are limited. |
And other companies will see this & lower their prices accordingly...Its the American way man...undercut the competition & make the sale. | |
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