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95 Upgrade to my 88 Springer

Discussion in 'Projects' started by FLHTbiker, Jan 30, 2010.

  1. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I'm wanting to do some upgrades to my 2001 Heritage Springer. Want to do a 95 inch kit but with a mild cam. What other upgrades or additions do you think I should do. Already have the pipes and Ken's carb kit.
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    I add some kind of adjustable ignition,
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    you will have to rejet the carb , Not sure what jets it will need
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    What do some of you think gear drive or leave it chain?
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    chain!!!!!!!!!! much easier, no special tools....quieter.....longevity........if the new chain conversion is available for your year model.....i have gear drive. new chain wasnt available.
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    I usually wouldn’t argue with chucktx but I’d go gear driven cams. I have two TC 88’s one with chain and one with gear, less moving parts with the gear, and I don’t think it is noisy. JMO
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    I just order a new chain set up from a HD dealer on ebay saved about $100 all in all HD PT # 25284-08 & spacer kit 25285-08 got both from different dealers on the bay for $372.05 & thats shipped to my door HD sell's just the cam chain kit for $429 + tax these are SE part #'s & the newer kit like the 96 in engines come with
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll have to look into the upgrade chain set, thanks.
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    the reason i say chain is i have done both,,,new version of chain and geardrive....the gear drive requires special tools to do the job....i knew where i could borrow some. with the new geardrive setup, no special tools, very easy to do, the new tension system is really good. you have to be very mindful of the crank runout with the geardrive....no problem with the chaindrive. jmo
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    Thats what I was thinking , I talked to some riders who did the gear to gear set up , & they said it a pita to set up right ,Talked to a HD mech who has done both (he help me do my rear belt) & he said the new cam chain set up is better , I also did sme reading up & all about the same new chain won with me
    FLHT those are SE pt # 's not HD there a place on the HD site down on the right side click then go to parts& apparl then you can look at those PT #'s
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    What about Andrews cams over the SE cams.

    The only thing I like about the gear drive is no more frigging plastic.
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    the first step you need to do before deciding on which one, is to do a runout check on the crankshaft. if you have too much the geardrive is out.....andrews are good cams....and the "plastic" on the new chain tensioners is pretty tough, and improved, along with chain design...........
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I have heard that Harley Say's that anything over 3 thousandths you should replace the engine.
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    not replace engine, but you cant run a gear drive......i dont think their current tolerance is that close.........
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I was told that in an Indy shop today when I stopped and was asking questions.
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    Then you wouldn't be riding a New Harley, A lot of them at 3thousands and more.
    And what you would do it have the crank balanced and proplugged and welded. Or git a Se crank.

    I would also go with the new chain setup which has the new style harley oil pump.
    On the Cam I would lean toward the TW 6 Woods cams.
    When you feel the power yer gonna wish you had of went for a little more.
    And mabe bump the compression up and put manual compression realeses.


    I would call Scott with Hillside, order a kit from him.
    He can take care of a crank too if its out too far and put timekin bearings in the cases.
    His heads looks good.
    Git the heads, cams , pistons and everything. I would even pay a little extra to have him fit the rings to the cylinders and put them on the piston.
    By the time you send yer heads and jugs to him. you can just about buy a set of jugs, and heads and have them done and git all the parts to yer house.
    Then when you tear the bike down, you can start puttin it back together.
    In the long run you will be glad you did.

    Talk to Scott and ask what kits he has available for you.

    Hillside
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    First open up the cam cover and see what the tensioners look like
    some get 20K some 40 to 60K before replacement is needed.

    If they are well worn at low miles it might be best to go gear drive.

    Best things about gears beside tensioner elimination is better timing no chain slop.


    A cam choice depends on how you are going to ride.

    JMO I would go woods tw-6, Andrews tw 37B, or SNS 510 for a mild
    95 inch cam, leaning to woods for more TQ.

    Carb tuning is key
    an HD adjustable ignition will be helpful in tuning.

    While it's apart consider having the heads cleaned up
    for a mild street port, call bill at bishops performance

    Bishop's Performance - Service & Parts for American V-Twin Motorcycles. Harley Head Porting Specialists.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I opened the side cover up about 4 months ago when I redid the exhaust and the tensioners did not have very much wear on them, so I figured the previous owner must have had em replaced. Especially with 38,000 on the bike now.

    I've heard good things about both woods and Andrews cams.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Harley shop down the freeway Albany HD is having a 25% off on any HD items that you order.

    What about new barrel's VS boring your barrel's out. I have talked to several shops that say used seasoned barrel's are better than new ones?
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    Bought used season jugs from R&R cycles. had them bore them to 95"
    Got some flat top JE 95" pistons from them too.

    Also bought some heads from them and had them ported and polished.
    While they had the jugs. I had them to gap the rings to the jugs and put the rings on the pistons so I didn't have to worry if I accidently broke a ring.
    Bought a Gasket kit from them also.

    They sent me everything and I tore the bike down in the mornin and started puttin it back together that afternoon. finished it the next day and started heat cycling it after that.
    Check out the prices.

    Redneck Chucktx seen everything I had and did, that is while he was awake.

    I was on his bike lift.

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