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07 FatBoy Cams??

Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by Tucker, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. Tucker

    Tucker New Member

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    Hey guys,
    Im looking for input on what cam to put in this v-twin. Im looking to add some torque for passing and going up hills in 6th gear. 55-60 mph is very doggy in 6th gear. A few years ago I added Rush slip ons, Power comander and the Heavy Breather with K&N filter, lost my dyno sheet :mad: but I do recall the HP went to 92. The bike has 35k on it. There has not been a bolt broken loose on the motor. Just want to do a bolt in chain cam. Any thoughts or experience would be appreciated. Seen some threads about the Anderson 26, 31, 37 and 54 cams. Tried calling Anderson 2day for advice but tech is at a show 2day, he'll be back Monday, thought I would c what u guys had to say.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Downshift.

    Your problem isn't the cam, it's your riding style,
    at 55 to 60 you should not be in 6th gear especially
    going up hill, you should be in 5th.

    Down shift and ride in 5th, 6th is for cruising and
    if you check the HD manual it will tell you this.

    What you need is to change the final drive ratio
    to a shorter (higher number) ratio so that you are
    pulling more RPM's at those speeds,

    I had a 6 speed in my 124 Heritage, you could slowly
    pull it up from 60+ mph in 6th but it's not wise, this are
    very large pistons moving at that point slowly, doing this
    just causes hard hits on the crank and it's called lugging
    the engine, you can damage the engine this way.

    As the Porsche guys tell you
    "when life passes you by,,,, downshift"

    Now if you want more TQ down low you need to

    call bobby woods at Wood Performance Carburetors - High Performance Harley Carbs and Cams

    he makes cams that make more low end power than
    the others, but that's still not going to solve
    your problem until you raise the RPM level..
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    Rpm builds cylinder pressure . Them rods aint spining fast enough ,if you made that hp you made good torque as well. Bigger cams are gonna knock out cylinder pressure and reduce the amount of power you make at that rpm . Remember you are changeing valve timing with the cams . I would advanve the cams you have now 4 deg and change the gearing. Like hrk said
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Hotroadking is right.

    Bobby Woods products rocks.

    The newest cam that Bobby Woods is gonna tell you to git is the Woods 555 CAm.
    But I would talk to Bobby and let him deceide that too.
    If yer bike has many miles on it. I would replace the lifters and all the orings.
    You will have to do a tuner if'n you do a cam too.
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    I'm with HotRoadKing, Downshift! Treat 6th like you would an overdrive. You want more HP go with the recomendations but you will still have to downshift.
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    With your riding style you'd want a cam with the torque as far to the left as possible(a low RPM torque cam)...with my 88"TC at 55-60MPH I'm still in 4th gear,I shift to 5th just over 60MPH usually...I'm running an Andrews TW21 and can pull hills in 5th @60MPH,but it's only about 2400-2600RPM's at that speed,not quite lugging but close...
    Woods cam are excellent cams...Andrews are good too... an Andrews 21H or 26H would be a good fit for you IMO...you shouldn't hit 6th gear until you're cruising around 70 MPH and drop to 5th or 4th to climb a hill @55-60MPH...
    Here's some Andrews cams to look over...you want a cam that fits your riding style which would be one that builds torque early....

    http://www.andrewsproducts.com/PDF_files/2008-catalog.pdf
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    man the 96 and 103 cams are not bad they have a good centerline and duration aint bad at all the motor company thought of this because of the six speed and final drive . im telling ya get an adjutable upper timing gear its cheap horse power and just advance the valve timing event and you will build more bottom end torque it will feel like a new motor . ofcourse you will have to adjust the fuel trim a bit .
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    you can get the adjustable cam gear set at.

    hemrickperformance.com
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh seven that's a 96 right?

    First bore out to 103 or 106 s&s kit

    Cams. Se 255 great tq cam




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    i think its a 96
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    Yep they're 96"ers.... The link I put in also has the part number for the 4* sprocket.

    Tucker....forget horsepower,it's torque you want...unless you're gonna be running over 5252 RPM's all the time. lol...

    HP = TORQUE x RPM รท 5252
    At 5252 RPM, torque and HP are equal. At any RPM below 5252, the value of torque is greater than the value of HP; Above 5252 RPM, the value of torque is less than the value of HP.
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    You can spend money on whatever you want. But !

    Just remember the hottest cam right now is the Woods 555 cam. It was designed off his best cam only it only has 555 lift.
    It will work with a 88cu- 110 cu..
    This is the cam to have
    Bob Woods is selling them, Fuelmoto is selling them and Scott with Hillside cycles is selling them.
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    the factory cam has - 2 deg intake vale opening in valve timing - if you take and advance the event 4 deg + you will be at 2deg+ witch will fill the cylinder faster . we have been doing this for years on motors . and they have been doing this on harleys as well for quite some time . were talking some times as much as 10 lbs of torque in 225. rpm increments. that is just what the doctor orderd in his riding style and wont have to go in a motor that has givin him no trouble at all . from his post . with the miles on that bike . were talking cams lifters new tensioners shoes even if he has the new style cam plate i would replace the shoes . i much more money . couple hundred bucks and he has more torque and a monkey can hang a chain set and the deg marks are on the gear you cant f that up!
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    Thanks for your input. I really appreciate it. Sounds like you been around the twin a time or two. This may be the way to go by the sounds of it. Do you have a document that shows this procedure?
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    I want to thank everyone for all your input. It is greatly appreciated. Stay in touch. Your knowledge is going to be the key to my success on this project.
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    I never bought a cam that did include a cam card that gives you the timing and overlap information. You could always call the specific manf. and make sure that that info is included.. Just a thought...
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    The andrews link I inserted has '07 stock cam specs except for LSA.... page 4

    http://www.andrewsproducts.com/PDF_files/2008-catalog.pdf
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    All of Bob Woods cams comes with a cam card showing the specs on the cam.
    and you can look up on his site and it will show you the specs.

    Bob also sells the cam gears that you can advance yer timin too.

    But better you can call him and talk with him and he will make suggestions on which cam will git yer build even better.
    You still need to talk with yer head man if yer doing he work oh,
    you don't just throw parts together. They have to work togher in harmony. Or you can create a PING monster. Or a hard startin bike.

    Different cams works at different Rpm's

    06-12cams
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    the whole article for harleys is at hemrick performance . as far as cam deg . we have been doing this for a very long time . there is not a motor that leaves my shop that is not checked before its run. and some times on the dyno we advance and retard valve timing .
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    all motors should have the cams deg in . if you dont know how far in the hole you are how do you know were true top dead center is ? if a cam is ground let say at 110 . you can still install that cam at 106 . 108 . or 110 . you just need to deg that cam in . but you must find true top dead center . the only way to find true top dead center . is with a deg wheel . and dial indicator. all motors will benefit from this . seldom is it done on every day motors . but all motors benefit from it . most techs install cams strait up and call it good , it takes an extra hour or so to set this up and check the cam.

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