After Much Deliberation

I have decided that it is time that I enter the world of EFI. I have decided that I will convert my 2001 FLTR. I have a pretty good handle on what parts I am going to need and already have someone ready to sell the parts that I need, well, most of them anyway.

Delphi is the only way to go. I can't buy another bike, I like this one way too much.

Just can't do that. Why? Cuz I NUCKEN FUTS!

Don't take this wrong.


Hmmmmm
Seems I tried to say something to you about this a few years ago.

But I was not heard.

Seems the youngans know more and has a better way of doing things.
Been just sitting back and watching everything.

What I would do if I was you. And I know there is no way I could every walk in yer shoes. I would trip and hurt my self.

I would sell the bike you have. Please don't ask me why.

And go find you a 2011 or a 2012 bike that has the newer frame, the new bigger back tire. Better brakes, and all the other good stuff. on it.

And quit throwing money in a old bike. Hello >

If I could help I would.

And don't try to convert a dinosaur to a EFI system.
Seems that somebody else tried to convert a EFI bike to a carbed bike.
That was going backwards.

The wiring is not there for it, Amoungst other things.
But I know you will become a wiring hero. And have night mares.

Cut your loses and come to the world of the new bikes.
They ride better, are more dependable. Easier to get parts for and work on.

There are a lot of 2011 and 2012 bikes out there that I would look at.

Go demo some. They are not gonna run like a built 95 cu motor.


And when you build them you got the place to do a much better build if you ask me.

Don't ask me how I know.

But I know just like before. You got to do it your way.
So all I can say is along the way, try not to get a Headache thinking about this..
Sorry if I interrupted your plans
Carry On !

Who wants a 96cu motor when they can have a 103 to start with.
And the 09 model had the steering limited to where it didn't turn as sharp.
And I don't think it was till around 10 that they improved the gear ratio on the tranny.

If I got a newer model bike it would have to have a 103 motor.
The cranks also got the pressure increased on them being pressed together.
Think it went from like 26,000 to 52,000 of pressure to press them together.
Much better on helping a crank not slip.
Don't know why they didn't make a crank that you can take apart. And stop the BS of pressed together cranks.

All HD has been doing is throwing more bells and whistles on their bikes and raising the prices.
Don't care for the Water Cooled Exhaust valve so they can raise the EPA .
standards.

Know a lot of people that didn't buy a new motorcycle because of that last year.
And they are not gonna buy one this year when the new models come out, because of the same thing.
And the new larger radio's that I'm hearing don't really bluetooth.
And the slot cut in the fairing.

What about a bike that produces a lot more Horsepower for the money you are paying.

They seem to be making the motorcycle for the new younger crowd.

But the younger crowd is not gonna stay with them. Too many other choices out there.

Its time for HD to go down the tubes till they change their ways.
They are listening to the wrong people. And are only interested in their stock holders . and not their customers.

They can't even produce a compensator that don't give problems.
They have already been replacing some of the new 2014 model compensators. The newest and most improved.

Start near the top, and take off what you don't want. Much cheaper than adding it after you bought it.

What year was it that HD changed the amount of pressure they pressed the crankshafts together. Wasn't it 2010 ?

Problems with the 96cu motors was the crank slipping.

Yeah CB most of what you had to say here is correct but I am considering this mostly because I am being forced into a decision due to part availability, not because I really want to. The engine that I am building will be next to bullet proof. Since I can't use what it is that I want, this my alternative.

Sure, I can afford to go out and buy a brand spanking new Road Glide if I wanted to, but that is just it, I don't want to. For me doing the things that I do to my bike is for much more than just changing things, it is all for the learning experience. And yes, most of that has to do with my age. For me, just going out and buying a bike with all the do hicky do dad's is just boring. JMO. It isn't about learning the "hard" way, it is just about learning.

Not talking about a brand new water cooled exhaust valve bike.

If you got a 2011 Road Glide with a 103 motor. Got a better crank than the previous years.

And lets say you built a 107 motor. It would be a learning experience.
You will learn the newer bikes. The electronic compression releases in the heads.
And the tool need to remove them.
You already know how to put rings on pistons. And which if the intake and which is the Exhaust side of the piston.
You will learn the new orings on the base of the cylinders and all. And the new style chain style cams. And you can convert the Hydraulic cam tensioners to the new Zippers Dual piston Hydraulic tensioners.
And what do you know about Fuel Injection ?
And or the fuel injection system controllers. Such as the Thunder-Max or the Power Vision.
Do you know the difference in the Wide band sensors and the Lambda sensors.
Do you know where the fuel pump is and the fuel regulator is and the fuel filter ?
Do you know how to change them out.

Every put a set of Progressive mono tubes in the front forks of one of the newer bikes.
Or put a set of Progressive 944UT shocks that will drop the rear end of the bike 1"
Got a buddy down the street that is 52. He was in the world of Carbed bikes.
Got a Fuel injected bike. He was lost and didn't know what to do.
Whole different world for him. He said himself. I don't know Jack about the new 2010 SE SG I got.
I got him into a Thunder-Max and a set of fuelmoto header pipes and mufflers.
Showed him what I knew and or could remember on the Thunder-Max.
Sent him youtube videos on it.
And he got a Power Vision so he could learn it.

Do you know how to run a data log on a Power Vision ? Or how to load one and write it and store it ?
In the last 4 yrs the world has changed for him.
He said himself. I like the world of Fuel injection much better than carbed.
You can do everything you need to with a computer.
Don't need working with jets and floats and all.
The newer bike can handle the power better. Much better swing arms.
And better frames that don't flex as much.
And a whole lot better world of brakes for stopping the power.
The more pistons in the brake calipers. The world of ABS.
What about the ABS wheel bearings ?

I wouild bet they have sold more FI bikes than Carbed.
FI bike sales has gone crazy.
How long has it been since they sold a carbed bike ?
When are they gonna sell another one ?

Do you know what and where a Fuel injector on a Throttle body is. And how many they are ?
How about a mass air flow sensor.
Know where a heat sensor is on the new bikes.

And the newer 6 speed trannys, Not the 07,08 and 09 model tranny ratio.
They changed the tranny ratio making it better for crusing and doing everything.
Between your starter and my starter do you know the difference ?
You got to pull yer primary cover to pull yer starter. I don't, know why ?

Newer Road Glide has a oil cooler from the factory.
Know much about Throttle by wire ? How to change grips. Or how to put one on cruise control or take it off ?

Do you know how to change the cams out on a chain drive cam ?
or know how to put a fueling pressure relief spring in a cam plate ?
Or what one is.



http://www.robsperformance.com/feul...re-relief-spring-detail.htm?productid=7790762

Trying to get you into a whole new world. That is much better to me for building bikes and doing things . You have learned a lot about the bike you have.
But what about more of the new FI world and how things works.

But remember, theres nothing to learn about the new world of Fuel Injection and all that comes with it.
Its just Plain boring.
Bet if you went to MMI, they would show you a little about the world of carbed bikes. And 85% of it would be about the world of Fuel Injection.
If you worked at a Harley shop. There would be a whole lot more FI bikes to work on than Carbed.

Know you got a good bike lift table , and you got to have torque wrenches and tools.
But will all the tools work on the newer bikes ?

Whole lot different of a world out there than you have explored dude.
And the new world is changing. Won't be no carbed bikes anymore.
Everybody is buying FI.
Can you work on them ?
Do you know anything about them ?

REal fascinating world of FI to me dude.
And all the modern technology that comes with it.
If you had a FI bike you would look back and say. WoW what a difference.
And there is more to learning FI than carbed bikes. And you can do so much more with a computer on them.

Ya I know, just a Old Redneck Hillbilly busting yer chops man.
Trying to lead you off yer beaten path of what you want to do.

What do I know.


https://www.facebook.com/FuelMoto


http://tmanperformance.com

The world is at your finger tips Redneck. Can you see it.

And what do you know about AFR's

What AFR's does a bike idle at. And when you are running what AFR's does it run it.
And if you twist the throttle what AFR's should it be at.
And which place do the AFR's give you the best performance and or fuel milage ?

When I was talking to my Buddy that got the new SG in 2010.
He said WTF is a AFR. And what does it have to do with my bike.

Don't forget the new bags with the toilet bowl lever thingy...........

Not a 14 model.

There are a lot of people that are doing what I am about to do. I have great resources to tap. The people on HTT know their stuff. In a matter of three days I have been able to track about 95% of the parts that are needed for this conversion. I wouldn't go forward with something like this if i thought it wasn't worth it or too big to chew. I have been thinking about doing this for about a year. And really, from the feedback I have been getting about this project, it really isn't that complicated.