Assistance With The SERT (BaggerP)

Ok, Bagger P, instead of dropping emails and phone calls I am going to put the questions up here my friend.

Right now I am looking at the screen that says Displaying Live Data. I am just going to assume that this for when the tuner is plugged into the ecm this feature will show me what air/fuel ratios are taking place?????

It was weird when you called, I was just getting ready to install to take a look..

You can't tune with a sert without it being on a dyno.
There is a large table you need to look at. And it changes with the RPm's

Air, fuel and timing...............

No the question is why are you puttin a sert on ?

What makes you deceide you need a sert.

Changes to the bike ?

Without a dyno you have no real time data and no load on the bike either.

you need to know info on how to use a program and what it is doing and what you are doing with the program.

The program is a large program. How much of it do you really think you are capable of using.
You have from Idle and every 256 rpm across the board till WOT.

ARe you tuning Air, fuel, what are you tuning for.:gah:

A good tuner is really hard to find.

You just don't hit and peck at it.:cussing:

you can burn yer bike up if you don't know what yer doing.

So you think he knows enough to road tune

Most folks don't know what you know about tunin
I have a dyno buddy that states a sert van only be properly tuned on a dyno
Doc spent like a week or mire at GMR
Teaching him how to use the TTS

Did you get a new bike JB?
Can you use a SERT with a carb?

Thanks S....

DW, at this point I am just trying to educate myself about the system and its capabilities.....

OK, was wondering if I missed something. I'd like to learn more about them myself but untill I buy a bike with EFI I'll will just listen. I did put on a new V&H 2-n-1 exhaust the other day.

BagggerPaul sent me the Super Pro Race Tuner Disc so I can take a look at its format and capabilities before I buy my bike and of course before I buy the SERT system. How can you go wrong with getting to play around with a product before you actually buy it???

Cool, that's a good deal, should let you know if that is what you want or not anyway.

That is precisely why I am doing this...

My mind is not made up just yet as it never is this early. But I think that I want to at least get a visual.

HRK, I am not looking to turn the Road Glide into a Road Ripper!!! All I want to do to it is a basic stage one and that is it, just enough to wake it up a little, that's it... I haven't looked into the TTS yet, I will, but just haven't yet..

:roflmao:I wish I had a dime for every time I said/heard that...:roflmao:

If my bike had O2 sensors already on it,that's the tuner I would have chosen....

HRK any info on the new Revolution Performance Precision EMS...might be worth checking into also JB

Revolution Precision EMS

thats input and outputs from ecu if you have 02 on the bike you will see 02 sensor voltage . 0.00 being lean and up to 9.5 to 1.0 being full rich if it was wide band 02 . it would be 0. to 5 volts and they would be called air fuel sensors . if you go to the tunning side , and click on advanced menu . the tunning will go from percentage to actual air fuel ratio values . but lets not for get that the air fuel ratio changes will only be changed correct in the ve tables . the air fuel ratios screen is what you want .the ecu to do ! you need to give it the correct ve amount for it to acomplish the request . you got alot of reading to do the manual is in the disc . educate your self very well with the system and you will find it very easy to tune if you have the understanding of how the fuel injected system works . it does take a long time to get a good tune off the dyno but it can be done . you just have to get a wide band air fuel gauge and ride . the smart tune set up is very nice on the sert it will show you were you were and were you need to be as far as ve tables . keep readinjg brother!!!!

Or since you like takin classes this is the Best Sert out there.
Classes are startin daily.

Don't think I know enough to attend, they would be talkin over my head.
I will just stick to the TM with Auto tune. I'm gittin about 38-41 mpg on a bagger riding two up.

This is the best guy in the business I've heard of.

http://www.docsperformancetuning.com/TrainingPrograms.html

yes he is but but he wont teach you on the new sert he will only teach you on the early tts set up talked to him when i first got it . he is in my neck of the woods . down here in fla very very good . and strait up guy. he dont like the ve tables of the new set up

With the original sert that Harley had was wrote by Steve Cole.

Steve wanted to do some advancements to the Sert. HD said No.

So when steves contract ran out with HD he pulled his program and came out with the TTS mastertune which is the new Sert but he can't use the SERT name cause HD has it.

Then Kent Moore came out with their version. I think somebody else might of gotten in on the ball game too.

Know Doc spent about 2 weeks at GMR performance in AZ trainin the owner on the TTS mastertune. The TTS mastertune is what everybody wants now.
It will do so much more than the sert

I had a friend that went to MMI years ago. HD came and got him and put him in performance with HD . Know he spent 2 yrs at a HD dealership.
He was one of the best dyno persons I ever knew on a Sert.
He showed me how big of a program the Sert was. And most tuners can only tune with part of it. They don't git a real tune done good.
That's why its hard to find a good tuner.
The program is so big it intimadated the tuners.
Most tuners can only play with part of the program
And to tune the bike you need it on a dyno under a load workin so you can git good reading.
He said when he tunes a bike, if you jack with the program he can see it.
Business at the HD dealership got real bad this past winter and he took a job with the City of Conroe . Ain't seen him since.:rant: