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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by 06rdkingcust, Dec 5, 2009.

  1. 06rdkingcust

    06rdkingcust New Member

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    I have a 06 road king custom fi. I'm going to get the 95 ci big bore kit installed. I've talked with two different h-d dealers and they both said different cams. One said 204 and the other said 211. Also one said true duals and the other said not. Any suggestions ?
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    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    The only thing I can say about cams is it depends on your riding style ,as for the true dules I have them on my 03 E glide & the only difference I noticed was the heat under my right cheek & leg the bike runs the same ,I have EFI & had it dynoed for pipes & air cleaner set up
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    06rdkingcust New Member

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    My riding style is mostly just cruising. I really just want to twist the grip and pass somebody. And a little better take off. The only thing that I have done to the bike is Slip-on's and k&n and a fueler.
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    The standard Big Bore(stage 2) from HD comes with the 203 cam which is what I have in my 06 glide. It's still an 88 with Pc 3 and high flow air, I have good lowend torque and pulls pretty good all the way to 5000 rpm.
    204 cam is more aggressive I believe but not sure on the 211. With HD winter specials I just got a price of $2500(can) for big bore kit (no cams) Pro super tuner ,new bolts,gaskets,all around and the Hyd cam adjuster with new style oil pump. Installed and mapped and dynoed. Should net near 95 lb torque rear wheel!
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    For your bike and riding style the 204 would be a better fit for you between the two. The 211 is a little more top end and is better suited to a lighter bike like a Dyna.
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    Thanks for the advise on the cams. What about the true duals or stock with slip-ons? I'm gonna stay with the mufflers that i have now. Just don't know about the true duals or not.
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    True duals are good for sound and heat but won't make a major diff in your hp. If I could get a set at the right price I would switch just for the right side heat factor!
    Forgot to ask if you had ext warranty but if not, there are better bang for the buck cams out there, lots of posts on here covering alot of them! A good indy shop may be something for you to look at but for me I still have 2 years left on my warranty so just because I will probably go with the stealer!
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    It's out of warranty. Talked to a dealer in Detroit yesterday. They suggested the 211 or 251 cams. Or they said a HQ 98" kit. The numbers looked real good for that kit. Just looking for right now. Will have something done by the spring. So still open for suggestions !!!!!
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    If you do go for the true dules check the web you can still find the for around $300, shipped to your door , just keep looking it took me a few days of looking before I found mine , did some looking for a friend & he decided not to wate on me & payed a little over $400 local for the same V&H I have & your mufflers will fit them
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    I checked the Harley catalog and the 211 and 251 are recommended for a 103" engine and with a 45* and 46* intake closing would seem to me it would come on in the upper RPM's of a 95" so unless you cruise at 4000RPM( my '03 88" with 3.15 gearing cruises at 70MPH @ 3000RPM) I don't think the power band of those cams are where you'd like them.
    If you like to cruise and just want good highway passing power and better pull from stop lights I think an Andrews TW26 would be a good fit for your 95" kit. I think you'd like the HQ 98" Touring package.
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    I looked at the specs for the Andrews TW26. That looked more like what I would want. Is the HQ 98 Touring package a good streetable setup. I don't know anything about it. I want something that is going to be reliable. Plan on doing alot of riding next year.
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    i run the andrews 26 in my geezer glide..........i ride two up and often pull a trailer....i am very pleased with the performance and mpg.
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    06rdkingcust New Member

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    Do you have the just the cams or do you have it built a little?
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    Here 's a link to HQ 98" if you want to check them out, if I was going to get the heads done by HQ,I'd go with a complete packageTwin Cam
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    just the cams, and a full tweek on the carburetor using kens kit and velocity stack......:)
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    if you have your mind made up to repalce the cams the andrews tw21 and tw26 are fine fo stock chan drive. power range of either is good for a touring bike. you mentioned going with a bigbore kit. i would suggest ahving the heads relieved and a better port configuration added to them. with a 95 inch kit and cany cam suited to chain drive with close to stock exhaust, you might gain 7-10% more hp.that would put you around 72-75hp.torque will increase,but onky to around 84 ft.lb. a good et of ehads on an other wise stock tc88 will provide a 25-33% increase in hp. and torque in the 92 ft.lb. range. of course this depends on the fuel used.im using averages we receive back from customer input. im not talking about after market bolt on head,but rather professionally reworked heads. im sure you could have your heads reworked for $1000 or less plus parts. if you would like more information fel free to contact me. i would be glad to help. tony m. dabbs Dabbs Engineering And Design,D.E.A.D.
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    HD 204's would be my choice of the two HD cams on a heavy bike,
    however if you did head work and raised compression, the 255's would be better still.

    The 211's are more of a sporting bike cam, some people like them because they hit hard at 3000 and up rpm so they like that top end feel but for a touring bike, think TQ and think lower RPM which 204, tw21, or tw26, even tw37B's if you raise the compression,

    Alternatives are Wildthings (Kuryakyn) tc -2 or woods tw-6 cam..

    If you just want to bump low end power, then cams, compression and tuning are key.

    IF I were going mild build (as you are indicating) I'd stay away from the wild high end high hp stuff, maybe get the heads ported, cleaned up the intake manifold to intake ports so they match, then get it tuned.

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