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Crank or Rod bearings

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by HarleysLR, May 16, 2012.

  1. HarleysLR

    HarleysLR Active Member

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    Looking for some help, 05, TC 95, S&S gear drive cams, 73,500 miles
    Last week went rode to Southern California, Couple hundred miles from where we where headed we pulled in to refuel I noticed the Ol's Fatboy was a little loud. We refueled and when she started the bike back up, it was making a little noise, kind of like a loose rocker arm, but wasn't as loud as when we pulled in. Anyway off we went, we get in a traffic jam just north of LA on I-15 when she pulled up next to me it sounded like the thing was going to fly apart. We made it to our motel and the noise was about the same as before. Next day I call the local dealer they come to the motel and picked it up to take it to see if they could find out what was wrong.
    The compensator bolt had come loose, they put some loctite on it and torqued it down. Noise was still there but not as bad as before, but now it sounds like a knocking sound down low. They checked the cams and adjustable push rods, everything to do with the cams is in good shape. They wanted to pull the cylinders to get down to the crank and look at it, but we were 1300 miles from home. I said no and I am having the bike shipped back home before going any farther into the engine.
    Anyone ever had troubles with the crank or rod bearings on a TC?
    We were pounding it pretty hard, 75-80 mph for 2 - 12 hour days.
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    This sounds an awful lot like what happened to Red Riders bike last summer. If I remember right I do believe it ended up being the crank bearing. Talk to Red and see what he thinks.
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    HarleysLR Active Member

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    That's what I was thinking to but I can't remember what caused it. I think he had some cam issues also.
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    No he didn't have cam issues. He just upgraded since they had it all apart. They gave him a pretty good deal. His was an 88ci left Wisconsin with a 95.
    Last edited: May 17, 2012
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    Sounds more like the bearings are gone but most likely ate the crank as well
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    If the crank is toast,
    get an S&S stroker kit and make it a 116
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    i first would go back and check that comp for damage make sure the sping and comp housing is in good shape and also machine about 0.40 of the comp nut so as not to come loose again they bottom out on the threds and actually dont snug up! next i would check the balance shaft assembly tensioners its a b motor and i owned one the do fail way before the crank does and if you had a rod bearing going that oil pump would have been long gone by now . next just pull the crank sensor and have a look at the end its your view to whats going on. at the crank the hall effect wheel is the crank if you have a bad bearing it will be at the end of the sensor being it a very strong magnet! good luck brother:D
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    HarleysLR Active Member

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    Thanks that's the kind of info i'm looking for.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Look for a new conversion kit to go to the new style chains.
    It comes with a upgraded oil pump and all. You really want the upgraded oil pump and hydraulic tensiorers Redneck.
    I would even consider replacing the lifters while its down.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yep I had the balancer cover bolts back out
    and it sounded like all heII was breaking loose.
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    baggerpaul Well-Known Member

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    i will never build another b motor unless i get rid of them and just internally balance the crank assem . some guys say it only vibrates as bad as a evo witch i think is pretty smooth . **** if it shakes less then my a motor ill take it !
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    drain the oil,check with a magnet,if its the lower end (rod bearings),you`ll have metal in it
  13. HarleysLR

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    thanks,
    It realy sucks to have trouble when your 1,300 miles form home.
    I will say that this is the first time I have ever had any trouble while on a trip.
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    UPDATE
    Have the engine completely apart, split cases and all. 2 unrelated problems.
    #1. Front bearing on the balancer chain went out. Pieces of bearing carrier and filings throughout the whole engine.
    #2. When the compensating bolt came loose the compensating gear walked a little crooked and let the rotor on the stator come loose and the crank spline wore the teeth of the rotor and screwed up the crank spline teeth. More filings throughout the primary side. Clutch plates seems to be ok.
    Solution:
    Had thought about rebuilding the crank and new pistons and .10 over bore and put back together and repair the primary side. After much thought and consultation with my engine builder friend I have decided to build a 103 stroker with a 6 speed transmission.
    This is not a cheap way to go but cheaper than a new bike. I've always wanted to build a custom so I guess this is my chance, changed out the suspension just last year so already a little ahead of the game. One thing that helped me make up my mind was the fact that the new softails don't come with a 6 gallon tank. Once you start spending thousands of dollars what's a couple more to have something really cool.
    Hope to be finished in a month or so. No real hurry's this time of year. We have gotten use to riding 2 up.
  15. FLHTbiker

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    I had a comp come loose on my 03 Ultra on a trip with Sleepy and CD into AZ. They were able to get it tight and added red locktite. The stator had to be replaced but they said that because there were not many threads left to hold the nut that it was going to come loose again. Well was on a trip and the work was done by the old Nut and Bolts dealer in Boise ID. Meant up with Sleepy and rode the bike like I stole it. Got back home and it started sounding louder again so had my eye on this new bike, yep bought a new one.
    Feel for you and it really sucks when your on the road. Been hearing of to many of those comp nuts coming loose. The mechanic working on mine said that there was no Locktite on the comp nut from the factory. Makes you wonder. Maybe those nuts should be wired like we did nuts on aircraft motors.

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