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Do I have to remap

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by kwalker, Sep 2, 2007.

  1. kwalker

    kwalker New Member

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    Checked out the FAQ's in the tuner and remap section but still have a question. I have a stock 07 Heritage. If I knock out the plugs in each muffler, (just for a little more sound) is it necessary to remap and change the breather, or can the computer adjust for such a small change. Also.....if I do that without changing the breather and remapping, will it make this mother run leaner and therefore hotter. My chestnuts are roasting over an open fire now <grin>
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    IF you are already running hot, I would suggest doing the job right the first time....breather, and map.......this will be better in the long run...not to mention a bit cooler chessnuts!
  3. kwalker

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    Plan on doing that in the future and I know it would be better to remap and add a free flowing breather, but I wanted to know if I would need to re-map if I only knocked the plugs out and if I knocked them out, would it make the bike run hotter?
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    I knocked the plug's out on my 03 & never remaped ran it about 6-8 months till change the AC & pipes , I also put A PC3 at the same time
    it never ran any hotter with knocking out the plugs
  5. kwalker

    kwalker New Member

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    Thanks Cowboy.....
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    Injectors are narrow band and can only adjust so much, however knocking the plugs out of the exhaust really does nothing other than increase sound and allow what air flows through the engine to leave faster. No more air goes in unless you change the air filter assembly. In my opinion, do ,it but when you go to change the air filter count on installing a fueler or do the remap.I know on my 07 bagger I drilled the stock pipes and it sounded ok, the big improvement was I no longer had that red glow light in my rear pipe after riding at night and that made me happy.
    BC
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    I believe it's the o2 sensors that are Narrow band, not the injectors, and the ecm takes data from them in a narrow reading of the exhaust afr and can compensate to some extent

    Yep you can knock them out, however it might just make the motor run hotter, because now that the exhaust flows better it's possible to lean out the mix even more. Add an air filter and you're leaning it even more!

    Get a vance and hines fuel pack, or a Powercommander, SERT, whichever you feel comfortable with when you change the filter and add a map for the combo and you'll get it richer and cooler running.
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    Yuppers, you are correct and I get a big DUHHHHHH for today.
    sorry
    BC
  9. bcnasty

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    OH and meant to add if you consider the motor to be an air pump and the valve train only opening on the exhaust stroke for a given amount of time then only a given amount of air fuel mixture can come in and out no matter what size opening in the exhaust. The o2 sensers if I remember correctly will compensate from 14.1 to 14.9 afr . Plenty of folks are running with air cleaner changes and slip ons on 07's and not having problems, so they say. I would not go that far but pipes are fine. Higher flow air cleaner is not. The one other thing I have found on this 07 of mine is unless you richen up into the danger of washing your cylinder walls with fuel area, it does not do a lot of cooling. The fuel mileage sucks and you really have not accomplished anything. In my findings I started by drilling my pipes while my slip ons where on order. Then installed a Cobra fueler and air cleaner with a stage one download to be able to run my rpms over the 5200 the rev limiter was set at. Then went to a fullsac conversion and wrapped the exhaust with heat wrap and reinstalled the heat shields over the heat wrap. This cooled it some but the cams have proven to be the best cure for the heat problems on these beast. I will bet the 07 softails are worse than my bagger due to the oilbags under the seat. I know my softail was a bear in 95 plus heat due to sitting on the oil bag. Again, sorry for the stupid 02 senser verses injecter, don't know were my head was .
    BC
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    Just my two cents worth, but if you arepast break in period, go with a synthetic oil. It has dropped the temp on one of my bikes as much as 25 deg. I would not recommend doing it until at least 500 miles to insure complete break in and good ring seating. I live in Myrtle Beach area and have the same heat problems in traffic and what not.
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    The 07 bikes are a finicky lot and already seem to run too lean. I've seen these have pinging problems without making any changes to the exhaust or intake. Knocking out the plugs will definatly make it run leaner without adding a highflow aircleaner. The nice thing is there are the O2 sensors that help tune it after making the change. If you start to have problems with pinging on warm days when rolling on the throttle in high gear, you need to remap with at least the Stage 1 map or get one of the tuning systems such as SERT, PCIII, Fuelpak, etc.

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