Especially for CB

I hope his heart is up to that - he might get over excited and have the BIG ONE :roflmao:
(we are never goin to hear the end of this now) thanks flht

I'll wait until CB makes his comment - might get a bigger laugh.!

A well-aimed .270 Winchester at night will remove a red-light camera permanantly.

Absolutely! It's homemade, but works great.

Leather??? I used a solid brass blank for the outer canister with steel wool between the inner sleeve and baffle. Kinda like a miniature Rinehart muffler, it sounds like a bb gun.

Dang Man,

Talked to Attorneys in Houston and they said the same dang thing.
It was all lies and money spent by ATS on the Private Studys they did and put on TV to make folks scared that they needed em.
I hate ATS and folks with them.

Right on on the good article FLHT.

CB - did you get your legal problem straighten out?

Like I said ATS has so many millions of Dollars, they hire floor of lawyers and people to do things that are illegal for them.
They got a Law passed called the SCoff law. With the SCoff law they can from another state put a lock on you gittin yer tag renewed. You can't fight it even with a lawyer. That is another reason the lawyers got together and got the redlight cameras voted out of Harris County.
People could see it wasn't about safety, It was about money.
You couldn't even call the City of Houston and talk to anybody about fightin the ticket, nor was there anything a lawyer could do.
ATS and people like ATS are Corrupt.
If you want it they have cameras to give you a ticket for Red light, speeding, expired tags. Seat Belt and so on.
And if you want to vote on it the can pass a law so if you don't pay yer ticket that a cop never gave you, they can come and git you out of the bed and at work and take you to Jail.
And we wonder how Helmet laws git passed and motorcycle safety stops.

Cardboard, the States that allow those cameras at the intersections love them. They don't even have to install or monitor them. The companies that make them (there are several) install them AND monitor them AND send out the tickets. The State gets 50% of the revenue, and the company gets the other 50%, so you see why local gov't loves them.

We had one installed in our little county about a year ago, but it only lasted a month. Someone shot it out; they replaced it and put a shield around it, but someone shot it out again. No more cameras since then, and never a word was ever said. I kid you not-- that is the only way to deal with big brother spying on you.

The attorney has been dealing with ATS for over 4 yrs. YOu can not go to court and fight the case. You still have to pay.
ATS has a loophole in the law, its the Scoff law lockin the tag in yer vehicle up.
The ATS has spent the money to have the laws changed for them.
So you have to git rid of the vehicle or pay the ticket.
YOu can't call the city and go to court and fight it. So there is no way out.
That's why the people voted the cameras out.
This was done free by attorneys in Houston because of the crockedness of ATS.
Same thing happened in Baytown , Texas and
B'ham.
No camera is gonna come to court for you to fight against. Like a police officer would..

I was gonna take my van back home and have it put in my sons name and pay the insurance on it.
I do not like being Bent over. If this is freedom , we don't need it.
How well did this answer your question.

"You can't beat City Hall at their own game". I've heard that one for years, and it's true. But there is another way to beat them on this issue (see above), and it works.

I'm a law abiding citizen too, but if we don't make our disatisfaction known in ways they DO understand, then they will continue to "bend you over" until you're totally beaten with anything they want to do.