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Hi-Po Evo project...

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by Tommyc, Mar 26, 2012.

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  1. Tommyc

    Tommyc Active Member

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    I want to build an hi-po Evo motor.
    What year and what C.I. are good?
    I think I will start with a S&S cases, natual finish. From Ebay or no?
    I was thinking 96 ci but read that they run hot.
    I heard some year cylinder heads are better than others.
    Anybody got any good advice?
    Tommyc, Mar 26, 2012
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Buy one from Jireh, 113 El Bruto, or if you got the nads, 127 shows up on front
    porch, in box, bolts in, less out of pocket.

    If you want to do a project SNS cases no doubt, but my guess is by the time
    you buy all the bits, assemble, spec, fix, work, etc you'll be right on the money
    with a box ready El Bruto, early ones were problematic but the later ones
    make a butt load of power for the buck
    hotroadking, Mar 26, 2012
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    +1 !!!!!!!!!
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  5. Tommyc

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    I want to build it myself. How are Delkron cases? compared to SNS?
    Thanks.
    Tommyc, Mar 27, 2012
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    Delkron are excellent cases ...but like HRK said it's cheaper now to buy a crate engine ... You can buy them unassembled and put it together yourself ...

    Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk
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  7. Tommyc

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    Unassembled crate engine? From where? Jireh?
    Tommyc, Mar 27, 2012
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  8. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Hey I like building stuff too but today
    for the money and time and effort you
    can't beat the crate engine, even the big
    boy builders go this route.

    Stock evo can't go past 80 cui with stock cases

    SNS, Delkron good stuff, but what happens is
    unless you are really good and have the tools
    you end up mixing and matching Joes crank
    with freds cases, toms, cyl and pistons, billy bobs
    badd ass heads, and you can end up with a nightmare
    of parts mismatch and not much power or a weak
    engine.

    I'd much prefer an SNS crate but the bucks are higher
    short of that the ElBruto is your best bet, call them for
    the price, and take the time to assemble a bad arse bike.
    from parts....
    hotroadking, Mar 27, 2012
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  9. Tommyc

    Tommyc Active Member

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    Are they made in the USA?
    How much cheaper (% wise) are they than SNS?
    Tommyc, Mar 27, 2012
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    Good question. I have been eyeballing a SNS 111 to replace my EVO when I blow it up again. This thing would set me back about 6G if I include the intelligent spark option. The 111 is for touring and has something like 100 ftlbs at 2250 rpms.

    But what would a comparable El Bruto engine cost????

    On another note, I googled billy bobs badd ass heads and got billy bobs badd ass pacifiers. Genius Idea.

    Billy Bob Pacifiers :roflmao:
    Tomflhrci98, Mar 27, 2012
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  11. Tommyc

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    With just a quick comparison on the motor case, Ultima is 30% cheaper.
    I assume everything else is about the same 30% less, they would have to be to get people to change buying from tried and true manufactuers like SNS and Delkron.
    Furthermore, I was under the understanding that RevTech and Ultima are Chinese products. Is it just the engineering is Chinese but the actual parts are "made" in the USA? I'm confused. I would rather spend more for an american motor.
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    built MANY very wickid EVO`s over the years,ive got alot of stuff (have a 106" short block now (delkron cases,S&S 4.625" flyheel assy,axtell 3.812 cylinders,J&E,velva touch lifters,redshift)
    $4500.00
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    The little I could find on El Bruto they all say made in the USA , one site even went down to 80 & 100 in then 113 & up to 127 , thats to much for me , I could'nt find a lot of info other then that & some prices
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    I know! They call the 124 built for touring and I know 120 horses would be fun but you got to think about the tires, the belt, the clutch, the starter. It's more trouble then it's worth I think.

    I just want something smooth, reliable, has 20% or 30% more torque at 2500 rpms then what I got now. And not break the bank.
    Tomflhrci98, Mar 28, 2012
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    The more power, the more broken parts.
    I had a 103ci shovelhead that ran great. More power than I needed. Prolly around 100HP, kept breaking parts tho. I had to step it down to 93 ci to be dependable.
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    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    ya i would like to up date my 80 in 94 evo, ut the 100 & bigger is to much for me ,if I was a bit younger I would jump on it like a beer drinking to a fire hydrant :D but the 89 would be good ,but the cam they used if not for hwy running & thats what i would like , I'am just window shopping now , but it will come about my son had a 88 evo sns engine ran great & very dependable
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    HicCup Banned A-Hole

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    El Bruto has this rilly neat black chrome that you can git the engin in. I fergit the name. LIke it was sed, the early ones suked
    HicCup, Mar 28, 2012
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    100 for mild street fun,

    Big engines don't break parts
    heavy right wrists break parts...
    hotroadking, Mar 28, 2012
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  20. Tommyc

    Tommyc Active Member

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    That's like saying guns don't kill people... Chuck Norris kills people.
    Tommyc, Mar 28, 2012
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  21. HicCup

    HicCup Banned A-Hole

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    HUH:confused:
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