Is buying a car getting political

were screwed.............

Well we own a 3/4 ton Dodge 4X4. Very nice truck like it a lot, especially that new Cummings motor. Ford has had nothing but heart ache and headaches with the International Diesel.
I've always had good luck with Chevy cars and Trucks. I will just keep the Dodge. We have a Impala that we bought new in 02. The wife has put on 100100.00 miles on it and she thought about a new car. My only thing that I told her was no Japanese cars, not supporting Japanese land with the profits they make off of us on them. But, after checking with the insurance on a 09 Chevy Malibu and the price increase we decided to keep driving the 02. Crap the car still runs stong, gets 32 on the Hwy.
OB to me is going to run this country into the ground (he is already doing it). With him signing into law allowing the Palestinians to now move to the USA, were F&cked for sure.
I wonder if he would get elected now if we could do it over again. :cussing: :angry:

since ford started making their own diesels, they have had problems. the older internationals were/are work horses. i think i will just keep what i have and repair as needed......

My 07 Dodge 4X4 diesel and the interior are great. Body style is sure a lot better looking than the new Chevy Body style. IMHO But that's what steered us towards the Dodge vs the Chevy. Ford was just having to many issues with their diesel. Put the Cummings in the Ford and you have a winning combination as long as you get a strong auto tranny.

Yes I've had some "heated" debates on a few other boards where there are some union boys.

As I've said it's not about me being mgt and you being union, it's about the political bullschit Obama pulled by giving the UAW stock over debt holders.

What he did was re-write the way bankruptcy is handled and at the same time screwed bondholders and investors in private debt placement by putting unsecured Union Pensions ahead of the people that loaned money to keep the company going.

Frankly someone should sue like crazy and I expect to see something along the lines.

What this does for those not into corporate finance, is simple erase the private debt and bond debt placement options for any manuf company in the USA. Why would a bank, or group of wealthy investors put money for bonds with a specific yield now knowing that Obama can come in and wipe out the debts tie to any assets and move anyone he wants ahead of them in the pecking order.

They won't

it's why Ford can't do a bond offer to raise capital right now, they are trying to sell more stock. Obamas' boy may have had that in mine in order to get Ford to capitulate and take obamamoney or TARP funds.

Me, I'd buy a Ford, I'm a bowtie guy, always have been, but there are now three fords in my drive...

My 03 Supercrew has 91K on it and it's needed tires, brake pads and fluids, that's it.

I would never buy a UAW owned Chrysler, ever not because I don't like the union employees, I don't like the backdoor buttbanging Obama and the Union did to jump credit facilities and screw up the creditors that helped keep these guys alive...

Let them fail... It's a simple UAW buyout for more union dollars for the Dems.

I would imagine that the next presidential election is going to be the biggest event and political fight in history. As long as the Republicans can come up with a strong candidate. Its one where for the first time I might even join in the the process to throw out this monkey.
I love the way Nancy P stumbles on her words when being drilled above water boarding, such a unconvincing lier ain't she.

I'm with you hotroadking I'll never buy another Dodge either because of that. I really like the way the Ford F-150 4X4 looks but for the diesel I do like that Cummings.

"I would imagine that the next presidential election is going to be the biggest event and political fight in history."

IF we make it that far............

You know I hate even saying I wouldn't buy a Dodge,,, because I want it to make it... but I can't stand watching capitalism being pushed under the rug for a socialist agenda of the left.

And that doesn't mean all Democrats are bad, because we have some looney right wingers too lol

amf now that all the poltical crap is here before you buy any new diesel try looking each brand up on edmonds.com & read all the good & Bad about each one The ford 6.0 is a boat ancher after the 7.3 , dodge 6.7? is power less to the 24 valve , both cummins the chevy duramax wont pull even with my 01 Dodge 24 valve or come close in MPG & i have 222000 on my 01 mostly stock , stright pipe & I pulled the silencer ot off the turbo , more air in more air out = more power

I've bought my last new one for sure. That 07 Cummings is gonna have to last for a long time. Its getting crazy when ya have to pull the cab off to work on the motor. It may not have what you got Chuck but it sure as heck has got plenty of torque for me. Had an older Chevy 97 with the Diesel and that thing wouldn't pull its own weight.

We won't hold it against ya fujimo for driving a Toyota or Nissan, but lets not do it again, :roflmao:

See ya all in 5 days headed out on a road trip through southern Oregon with wife and friends.

have fun and stay safe!!!!!!

Tom My son has a 99 dodge pulls a 9000lb trailer most of the time for work has about 25000 miles still runs strong & pulls good I have had many a dodge with the cummines in it My 96 modle 12 valve was a work truck pulled a 48 foot goose neck put over 500k miles on it still ran & look good both inside & out , 98.5 was when the first 24 valve came out but to be far i also had a 94 Ford 7.3 diesel & put about 500k miles on it as well