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N.H. State Rep motorcycle noise limits

Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by cardboard, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. cardboard

    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    N.H.'s motorcycle noise bill misunderstood
    By N.H. Rep. Michele Peckham
    August 28, 2011 - 2:00 AMI am responding to misconceptions concerning the motorcycle noise law I have proposed.

    A review of current federal and state law is first necessary. Under federal law, all motorcycles sold in America are required to be equipped with factory-installed mufflers that are compliant with Environmental Protection Agency exhaust regulations. Thus, every bike coming off today's showroom floor is EPA compliant at 80 to 84 decibels. In contrast, New Hampshire law allows riders to replace their factory-installed mufflers with those that emit noise levels up to 106 decibels. If a bike is suspected of violating N.H. law, it requires three police officers to measure the decibel level with costly equipment.

    The new legislation will save police time and money in enforcement. The bill affects only motorcycles and aftermarket equipment manufactured after Jan. 1, 2013. If the legislation passes, only one police officer will be required to determine compliance. Initially, the officer will check the bike's registration to determine its manufacture date. If a bike was manufactured after Jan. 1, 2011, the bike must be equipped with the original factory-installed muffler or a replacement muffler which is EPA compliant. All EPA compliant mufflers are embossed with a statement indicating compliance. An officer can visually check to see if the muffler has the embossed statement. If the statement is on the underside of the muffler, as it often is, a mirror held to the underside of the muffler will allow an officer to see the statement.

    Bikes registered to nonresidents or manufactured before Jan. 1, 2013, will be exempt from the new law. Over time, pre-2013 bikes will come into compliance as mufflers that need to be replaced because of normal wear and tear are replaced with mufflers that are EPA compliant. No person with a pre-2013 bike will be forced to purchase a new muffler upon passage of the proposed law.

    Recent rhetoric that the delayed effective date of 2013 is of no value to dealers because their inventory "will soon too be illegal" misses the point that the bill exempts aftermarket equipment manufactured before 2013. That equipment is grandfathered and will not be illegal. Dealers will sell their inventory. Bikers who want louder mufflers will snap up pre-2013 mufflers because that equipment will no longer be available.

    Another misconception is that out-of-state riders will avoid New Hampshire and our state will lose money. Since the law does not affect out-of-state motorcycles, police will have no jurisdiction to issue a noise fine. Further, most of our border states have motorcycle noise laws akin to the proposed legislation (Maine, 92 decibels; Massachusetts, 82 to 86 decibels; Connecticut, 82 to 84 decibels; Delaware, 82 to 84 decibels), thus out-of-state motorcycles are likely to be equipped with mufflers that are less offensive than those allowed in New Hampshire. I see no reason why an out-of-state rider will shun New Hampshire.

    People have also alleged that the issue of motorcycle noise is "not real," but is a problem created by a few "bad apples" who have added straight pipes or mufflers above 106 decibels to their bikes. This argument is a "red herring." The problem is so bad that North Hampton adopted a noise ordinance directed solely at motorcycles. Rye and New Castle are also considering ordinances. If noise were not an issue, why are dealerships engaging in noise awareness promotions or towns conducting noise checkpoints? Changes to current law have been proposed three times since 2006, and each time the Transportation Committee has voted to kill the bill. As justification, the committee has pointed to issues that this bill adequately resolves. The committee has also stated the 106 decibel level is not a problem. Actually, it is the heart of the problem. To illustrate the absurdity of the committee's position, one need only understand how loud 106 decibels is. It is equal to the sound emitted by a Boeing 707 or DC-8 aircraft at one nautical mile (6,080 feet) before landing. It is also louder than a jet fly-over at 1,000 feet above ground (103 decibels); a jet take-off (at 305 meters); the use of an outboard motor or a jackhammer. Even a Bell J-2A helicopter hovering at 100 feet is not as loud (100 decibels) as some of the motorcycles on our streets!

    A review of the laws of those states with motorcycle noise emission laws reveals the startling fact that no other state has a noise emission law as loud as that allowed in New Hampshire. In short, current law is unacceptable, it is difficult to enforce and allows for obnoxious noise levels that make life unbearable for non-riders. I implore upon my fellow legislators to consider the interests of everyone in New Hampshire, and not just motorcycle riders and dealers.

    Michelle Peckham, R-North Hampton, represents House of Representatives District 13.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Guess nobody notised the Rep is a Lady,
    The sound and stardards are gonna be set to her likin's.
    And my 11 limited that has a 103 with STock pipes and mufflers was 92.4 on a DB meter.
    So she wants it quieter than stock.
    Why does a woman git to set the standards.:cussing:
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    Didn't read it till now but it say after 1-1-13 then down to 1-1-11 so i' good with my two :) & besides don't think I'll ever make it to NH
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    Problem is S-heads like her are popping up everywhere and making their own noise to push their own agenda. Who in NH is there to oppose the B-Queen. Sorry but she to me is going extreme. Plus she must be a blonde cause she has got to be an air head. :angry::fight:
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yep the regulators are coming at us.

    We talked about this what a year or more ago,
    noted the few aholes riding around with no baffles
    who love the sound on the bike, never considered
    they were going to be the catalyst in a non biker
    revolt against noise.

    I can pull up next to a car with the windows
    down on my stock bike and the window goes up,
    generally so they can talk on the cell phone LOL

    Funny loud pipes haven't hurt or killed anyone but
    it's the discourtesy of the few that kills the fun
    for everyone when these legislators get going.

    Actually I bet if you check your state laws most
    have one on the books that you cannot change the
    exhaust on a motorcycle or car for that matter
    unless you do so with an OEM or like replacement

    It's one reason I changed the baffles on my new
    bike, keeps the external cases with the EPA stamp
    right out there to be seen... LOL

    Most FL cops have better things to do than
    pull over louder HD bikes, but if you get cranking
    on a set of straight pipes around a cop you'll
    get pulled over...
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    I don't do emissions
    So I ain't gonna do a EPA stamp
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    EPA stamp is the certified stamp for both NOISE and EMISSIONS.

    If TX passes a law it will be like the rest, non retroactive,
    but if you have a newer bike you'll be stuck with stock pipes
    unless you want a ticket, plus it depends on cops and their
    ideas of what to enforce.

    oh wait I forgot, you don't pay your tickets.....
    Hows that van in the yard doing, did you ever get that
    right on red fixed?

    If you want to know your current state laws
    click here

    http://www.cmsnl.com/community/misc/law.php?subject=Muffler
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    We got emmissions laws in Texas dude.

    Where I live out in the country, people are so poor they don't make us do the emmissions.
    So as long as it ain't here I ain't got to do it.

    And if you want to kill more jobs, put more EPA on us.
    KNow how many jobs the EPA has killed, and people are out of work.
    They had rather do epa emmissions than folks to have a job.

    Go figure.
    We got the wrong folks in office and we can't git them out.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I think ya missing my point.

    EPA is Federal, so the mufflers that pass EPA have to have an EPA stamp
    from the factory,

    Cops use the mirror to look under the muffler for the stamp, no stamp, you get
    ticket. This can be for non EPA compliance vs actual noise, see you use the EPA certification as the baseline for noise as it's 80 to 84 db mandated by EPA.

    With the economy sucking the rules that exist will be enforced for "rolling revenue"

    Right now you don't have an ordinance on EPA for bikes,, city or country in TX

    so it's not really about what is coming out of the pipes in the form of exhaust or sound
    they can get you for not having the stamp, which is easier to enforce.

    Sound Nazi's are after the bikes...
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    No you don't understand,
    Federal or no federal. we are so small the Feds will have to take care of more people here if they try to put a EPA stamp on anythng here.
    CAuse folks will not git their cars and trucks and farm equiptment passed
    The EPA will and FEDERAL goverment will have to take care of more of them.

    We don't have no bus system here either.
    Telling you folks here will not do Emmissions or won't do EPA.

    Its time to put a choke chain on the EPA.
    When the goverment goes broke, how they gonna enforce anything.

    They've already had rednecks to attack the Game warden and beat him up pretty bad.
    They tole him if he came down the hill he needed to bring more help.
    He didn't listen.


    Oh yea my stock limited was 92.4 DB
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Stamps already on the muffler, it's not a
    Stamp you put on the bike or window
    it's part of the original factory part

    Go out to that junkbox you call a garage,
    pull the tool bucket out of the way and
    lift the plywood off the boat and pull
    out the stock mufflers, roll them over,

    see the stamp?

    that's what I'm talking about
    you dont' buy nothing, country or city boy won't matter

    YOu'll be running down some TX highway, singing
    willie nelson songs fulla redneck Budweiser and
    fart'n out hillbilly bean soup when Sheriff Buford T Justice
    pulls your ol country boy butt over and mirror checks the
    bottom of your pipes.



    "Boy don't cha no it' here's eye-legul to be riding
    that bike with them non stock EPA stamped orficeul mufflers
    why Ms. Hawkins over ta the chicken farm called said yo're
    bike wasa scarin he chickens, and she about lost a half dozen
    birds in the scramble. Said the mufflers wer'nt so bad but
    that hillbilly scratchy neck off tune scretching coming outtta
    yo mouth scared a stamped of buffalo right through her
    hen house.

    Then he's gonna hand you a $500 ticket and tell ya not
    ta sing no more ....

    See here's a picture of the manufacture stamp, it's on the headers and the mufflers.
    [​IMG]
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Didn't come on my 2011 man
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Its required by EPA on all exhaust...

    check the muffler bodies...
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Got em in my hand, no stampin on them like that.

    I got Supertrapp Stouts on my bike now. The Stock mufflers are in a box.
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    I'm running straight pipes with 10 1/2" baffles in them - not the quietest pipes, but not obnoxiously loud, either. (I heard them today for the first time). Since the bike is registered as a '77, I'm exempt from state inspections. That was an unexpected perk.
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    I think this is all very stupid, don't these law makers have anything better to do. :cussing:
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    So it wouldn't be so bad if a guy was trying to pass it through? :confused:
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Here we go.......:cussing:
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    Don't matter to me if it was male or female don't see what that has to do with it. To me there are way to many stupid supposed law makers out there that don't have better things to do than something like that.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    The lady probaly don't like motorcycles. And the noise hurts her ears.

    Either way if this is all they have to do what is their state paying her for.
    Like we need more laws.
    Especially against a motorcycle.


    What about makin a law against a politician for not doing their job.

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