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Passing light

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by big_jake57, Apr 19, 2010.

  1. big_jake57

    big_jake57 Active Member

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    Hey guys, one of the "passing lights" or driving lights or whatever they are called was out on my Ultra. It had 35 W lamps in it, which for some reason seem rather rare around here. I had no trouble finding 55 watt lamps so I got a couple figuring brighter is better........ Put just the one in first to see how much difference there was. Noticed that light felt warm to the touch in just a small amount of time. Didn't think 20 watts would make that much difference but am wondering now if it will be a problem. Don't want to be blowing fuses or something all the time. Should I order some 35 watt instead? I noticed some of the newer ones from H-D are 55 watt. What say you?
  2. chucktx

    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    check the amp output on your alternator......should be in the book. i believe it is the smaller one. ya need to be careful of amp draw......i know you know the conversion.....watts to amps...........add em up.....and yes, the warmer bulb will put out more heat.....that is why it is brighter.....let us know.......!
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    55W should be fine in the passing lamps,
    you can get them in standard bulbs for it
    at any auto parts store.

    Sylvannia silver stars are whiter and brighter

    you can get them at Wal-Mart too, the silver stars are pricey about $19 a pair.
    regular halogen are about $8 a pair....
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    I put the 55w in my 03 cop e glide a couple years back , the cop & ultra have the same charging system , to handle all the extras , so your good to go
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    It's Volts x Amps = Watts. Or in this situation you can use Watts / Volts = Amps. That doesn't take Resistance into account, but it's close enough. Assuming 12.8 - 13.2 Volts (engine running), going from 35W to 55W bulbs would change the Amp draw from around 2.7 to around 4.2 (per bulb) & an additional 3 Amps or so (total) shouldn't be a problem for your charging system.

    The higher wattage bulbs will be hotter though & the additional current will make the wires a bit warmer too, but that shouldn't be an issue. Only time I've seen where it has been is when switching to a 100W headlight bulb on bikes (like Sportsters) that have a lot of wiring in the headlight bucket - it gets "toasty" in there.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    been running the 55W for 10 years on my heritage
    only thing it burns are oncoming drivers eyes LOL

    So I readjusted them for better pattern yeah that's it...
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    :wtf: did Art just say? :gah:
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    Big jake, what part of Iowa are in? There is a really hot heritage that I have my eye on down there?
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    i believe it has to do with ohms law............:)
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    If you have a clamp on ammeter you can see what it is drawing for amps and compare to the manual specs. No hard math involved. The only problem I could see is the heat generated inside the lens, maybe a melting issue?
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    Your right Chuck. That's something I remember from my electronic days. (first thing you learn, then all the other laws/formulas you never use).
    Thanks for the input guys. I was looking through the books and saw that there were several 55W replacement lamps available, so figured it would be OK. It was the heat that got me wondering. I rode it tonight for a bit with one 35, and one 55 bulb, and after awhile, the 35W was pretty much the same temp (to the touch atleast) as the 55.
    Guess I'll give it a go.
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    I'm in extreme NW Iowa. Just damn near South Dakota.
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    :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: "Watt's Law", derived from Ohm's Law & I remember it only because I need to use it periodically.

    Like when I was the manufacturing engineer in a small factory, the 1st problem they gave me was figuring out why 3-phase electric motors were burning out fairly often. Simple - voltmeter showed 198 Volts @ each motor, but the nameplates were all 240 - with not enough voltage, the motors were pulling too many amps & overheating - the total wattage remains the same, but amperage is what does the work & more amps = more heat.

    The city had supplied the transformers outside & they were set for 208 Volts, but 2 men in a bucket truck can change the taps to 240 in about an hour & 1/2. I got into an argument with the city engineer about that 'cause he said I'd have to re-wire the whole building - no, you knucklehead, when voltage goes up, amperage goes down & I could actually use smaller wire - the wire gauge is fine, just change the taps on the transformers. He finally relented, they changed the taps & we never had another motor burn out again.
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    Yep Art, was at work today, doing a metric conversion when the math suddenly woke me up. Watts, not Ohms. Very similar indeed, but yet completely different. Thanks for setting it straight.:gah:
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    and E=mc2:roflmao:
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    and pie are squared??????????????????:banghead:
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    Easy now, pretty soon somebody will be doing quadratic formulas on us, then we'll all be confused !!
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    Nope - pie are round :D
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    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    that is what i thought!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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