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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by JohnnyBiker, Jul 18, 2011.

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  1. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    I am going to be taking the primary cover off to take a look at how everything is looking inside. Other than obvious things, what should I look at especially close???
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    My service manual says to throw away the shifter seal. Do I really need to replace that or can I reuse it???

    Primary cover is off and all looks really good. I can not see any damage of any kind. Oil was really clean, drain plug had very very little metal on it. I think that I am in good shape there...?
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    Why are you taking the cover off? Is there something wrong? They are sometimes hard to get back without having a leak. I would look for worn and/or broken parts.
    Disconnect the battery first.
    Do you have a new gasket and fluid?
    Also, is it a good idea to use gasket sealer on a HD primary cover? Is so what type?
    I am going to put my cover on tonight after replacing a starter drive gear.
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    No, nothing wrong, just wanted to open it up to take a look because I haven't since I bought it. Just going through it because Hot Rider and I are going to be on the road a lot here soon so I wanted to try and catch it before I am left on the side of the road... Oh yeah, I readjusted to prime chain and just wanted to make sure that I didn't screw that up as well..:D

    Yes I have primary oil, I didn't disconnect the battery but did take off plug wires, it is an extreme pain for me to take the batt cables because of how I have things set up.....
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    Oh I see.
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    just tinkering eh,
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  8. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Kind of, but there is a purpose...Tonight when I have everything back together (primary), I am going to drain the forks and change the fluid to make sure that there hasn't been any water in the system. If there has been then I guess I will have to take those off and replace what is needed. Doing these things is so much easier when you have a bike jack...:D
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    have you been water skiing with the bike?
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    No, but if the SM says to look for something like that then I guess there has been some sort of issue...:roflmao::roflmao:
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    JB, remember curiosity is what killed the cat but tinkering can be a learning curve. :D
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    Hotroadking: have you ever used silicone sealant on a primary cover gasket?
    My shovelheads have a tendency to leak!? HA, imagine that~!
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Tommy no but we've thought about it LOL

    Black Sillycone is oil resistant, and probably what
    you'd use.
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    Thanks.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I doubt HD makes one for the shovel but the new HD gaskets have a metal center and
    different material that compresses (not cork LOL) and work great, you really have to clean
    those surfaces and have a good clean surface for the gasket to work properly.
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    Thanks. I'm gonna clean the surface with carby cleaner and put black silly cone on both side of the gasket~!
    If that doesn't seal then I will weld the cover on~! LOL
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have a diagram available for the torque pattern for the primary and derby cover for a 96 Sportster 883 Hugger? I cannot find it in my SM and there has to be a specific pattern...


    Thanks.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Like I said a learning curve :D
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Now this is experience talking, I know that there are specific patterns for stuff like this....For some idiotic reason they don't have it in the SM, not in a huge hurry, I rather be cautious rather than reckless...:D
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    100-120 inch pounds...from the center out... is what I remember.

    Or, just use your 3/8 ratchet with the torx bit or allen head and rest a little pressure on it and you'll do fine, Do not over tighten. :D
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    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Are you serious??? That is weird that they wouldn't give a specific pattern. Not like heads on a car I guess. I was going going to just start torquing then another member of the forum said to follow the pattern. I told them that there wasn't one....Got thinking that I should ask to be safe...:banghead:
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