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SE 110 Starters

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by Fatboy128, Aug 4, 2012.

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  1. Fatboy128

    Fatboy128 Well-Known Member

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    OK, so whats the scoop on 110 starters frying? One buddy in clug ahs a 2012 SE 110 Street Glide and he's on his second starter. $35,000 for the bike and less than a year old. Another rider has a 2011 SE 110 counting the original, FOUR starters. Third rider has a 2011 and he has just installed his 2nd starter. Too much compression for the standard HD starter??? (All HD installed starters). :wtf:
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Only thing I have heard is all 2012 stators need to be checked.
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    Yeah, I read that excessive heat causes the glue that holds the magnets in place to fail on them. The story that we hear on the sarters is that the 110 is too much for them. Don't know fer sure though.
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    Man that's a lot of bad starters for three bikes , are they all starting & restarting to many times ?
    cowboy, Aug 4, 2012
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Maddogs got over 20,000 on his I've got 10,000 on mine now sense January. We have rode em in hot weather down in AZ and Vegas. When I got rid of the cat mine the oil temp dropped about 40 degrees so that could contribute to heat at the Starter.
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    I don't think it's because of starting too much but what the hay, my 95 SE is 7 years old and I know there are thousands of otherscooters even older with the original starters. It's a strange deal fer sure.
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    Get a All Balls starter 1.4 KW from Eastern Performance.
    Then put some S&S easy start cams in.

    Go to Batteries Plus and git a Good Harley Battery
    Either the Odyssey or Extreme Plus
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Mines still working. Buddy has one. No problems.

    Must be something else wrong on that bike


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    soumds like someones acr are shut off after a map download and the starter is working more than it should! or has a bad ground cable getting the starter hot and killing the armature.
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    Fatboy128 Well-Known Member

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    3 bikes involved so far.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    bet ya ol BP is right, they turned off the ACR, all 110's have auto compression releases, if they are using a tuner and grabbed the wrong map or one with ACR disabled it would work the starter harder...

    I ran a stock HD TC88 starter on my high comp 124, made it 10 years and was still starting it without a problem when i sold it, good cables, good battery, and electronic compression releases...
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    Fatboy128 Well-Known Member

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    You know, I wouldn't put it past the particular dealer techs. The 3 bikes all came from the same dealer & they all had exhausts done too! I'll pass it on. Thanks! ;)
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    You must enable acr when done tunning in tunning constants (sert) some tts maps have it built in to the map selected . On sert you must tell it injector tb size and if it has acr! Even if done by vin code! During map selection. Its only found in advanced mode in software!
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    i run the stock starter in mine and its a original 2001 starter . Im at 10.4.1. And the duce was 10.25.1 pop ups 200ccp stock starter!
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    yeah when I had the 10.5's in my 95 with SE head and woods 6H advanced
    the stock starter only got a few kick backs on hot restarts, close to 214 ccp
    no releases...

    Beast..
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    wow a 6h advanced 4 thats only 44 intake close that 124 was prob at least 127 torque starting on the bottom can you say wheels up off ground every gear!;)
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    Yea CB let's put thousands more in our bikes to get them started.NOT.I have47,000 on two 110s no problems,yet.Could be a bad batch of starters?
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    If you got a problem. And you've checked yer ground battery wire to make sure its plenty tight at the frame.
    And you got to replace yer starter. I gave you a 1.4 KW starter that is a good starter.
    Just had a past bike that was hard on starters. Tried several till I got the All Balls 1.4 KW starter.
    If you go to a Higher KW starter the standard battery is not strong enough.
    And I've seen a battery get weak and people keep using them, puttin more stress on the starter tryin to crank them.
    Don't know exactly what all you've done to your bike.

    The starter I showed you was about 300.00. or so.

    Go Ahead round it off to thousands
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Why would a guy with a bike under warranty drop $300 on a starter

    Higher volt starters are hard on the electronics. You have ti run a spare ground


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    Didn't know it was still under warranty.

    And I've seen people get tire of waitin on the dealer to figure out the problem.:rant:

    Why does the dealer have somebody that would turn off the ACR's on the bike.
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