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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by harley49266, Jan 23, 2006.

  1. harley49266

    harley49266 New Member

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    Thanks for the help on my oil being blowen out of my breather tube, it helped a bunch. Now, can any one tell me why it's hard to down shift when comming to a stop. It will not shift smothly when I down shift. And I cant get it into neutrial with out turnning it off. Any help you may have I will take gladly and thankfully.
    harley49266, Jan 23, 2006
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    bikerjim1 Moderator

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    Just off the top of my head, sounds like a clutch adjustment problem. Have you tried to adjust on the cable?
    bikerjim1, Jan 23, 2006
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  4. chucktx

    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    yup, a clutch adjustment is needed.....the plates are not completely releasing from the discs.....ya may need to pull the derby cover and screw the adjuster in a 1/4 of a turn, or if that doesnt work, a plate may be warped a bit or there is some fiber build up on the basket, not letting the plates releace all the way......let us know how ya make out....
    chuck
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Also the primary chain tension needs to be set that's the number one thing on going into N along with properly set clutch adjustment.
    hotroadking, Jan 23, 2006
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    does it drag at stop in gear? Have you had the clutch basket apart. After all the adjustments, its still hard to get in gear, the plates could be sticking together.
    oldsuperglide, Jan 24, 2006
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  7. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I know the later evo's had a spring plate in the center of the clutches, when this deal went south the same problem comes up, you can adjust it out for a while but eventually it is not shiftable.
    hotroadking, Jan 24, 2006
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    i found if it is still hard to shift after all the adjustments. go a head and pull the plates and clean. you can also drill out the holes in the clutch plates,where the pins go through, usr a drill bit about a 3/32 bigger then the hole,that give the plates a little more room. you can keep adjusting untill you pass out, most of the time its been dirty plates. good luck!! also the primary chain has nothing to do with the clutch adjustment.
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    Clutch Drag

    A word to oldsuperglide, It's not nice to question HotRoadKing. He has shown that he knows what he's talking about for quite some time. He is quite right with the primary adjustment possibly causing a hard to find nuetral problem. With that 2 cents worth, I'd still do a proper clutch adjustment to first try to remedy the problem. That center spring plate in the clutch has given me fits in the past and found that putting in an extra steel plate in it's place solved many a headache.
    VYBR8R, Jan 24, 2006
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    I never thought about the primary chain having anything to do with the clutch adjustment. I put my two cents out there, and got some change back!
    Keep up the good work Hotrodking. Never to old to learn something!! :)
    oldsuperglide, Jan 25, 2006
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  11. Bernie Blouin

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    I had one like that once and the clutch plates were all sludged up. I took it all apart ,cleaned it all in solvent ,scuffed the clutch plates up with a wire brush ,adjusted everything according to the manual and everybody lived happily ever after.
    Bernie Blouin, Jan 26, 2006
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  12. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    It's no problem to question me LOL heck I can't remember what I did for dinner last night, hell I sure have been wrong plenty of times.

    You have two issues here, he's right on shifting that the clutch it'self makes up most of that situation.

    FWIW my understanding is that finding N is usually a function of clutch setup and primary chain tension.

    Get that primary chain too tight and it binds on the clutch pack making it difficult to find N (Done that myself LOL)
    hotroadking, Jan 26, 2006
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  13. harley49266

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    Thanks SO MUCH to all that replyed to my question. I pulled of the cover and found that the plates need to be replaced. I also think that I may need to replace the cable. With your GREAT feed back, I think that I can fix the problem myself. Again THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR THE HELP. I'm learning to work on my own ride and I love this sight!! haarley 49266
    harley49266, Jan 28, 2006
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    I had the same problem as Bernie, took the clutch apart, cleaned it all and worked fine after some adjustment, if the primary isnt totally sealed moisture can and will gather in there and will cause some rusting on the plates, I learned that the hard way
    beau44, Feb 13, 2006
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