Stock exhaust with slip ons vs True Dual exhaust

And with adding more to this question, which slip-ons are the best for the money? If a new exhaust is the best, which one with out getting stopped every block by the local law enforcment?

In my opinion, if money is tight and you won't be building a high horse motor anyway...the slip on pipes are adequate enough and much cheaper. The stock headers seem to be large enough to accomplish their job...so you're just opening up the mufflers to breathe easier. True duals I believe have the added benefit of tuned headers with either specially shaped curves (like the Bassani pro curve) which keep the front and rear cyllinder exhaust runs the same length or with step tuned headers which gradually increase the pipe diameter as it works its way toward the mufflers. I believe they do that to keep gas velocity higher and stop reversion waves from making their way back to the exhaust valve. I have also heard that true duals do not tune so well with the stock EFI system using the flash system. I guess the flash is not independantly adjustable between front and rear cyllinders and so the rear will run lean and very hot while the front runs fine. The guy who told me this had the rhineharts put on and could not tune out the excessive popping till he antied up for the new S&S feul module with a closed loop system and I think individual maps for front and rear cyl. I do not have EFI but if this is true that would also add to your costs. I have KhromeWerks slip on Hp+ pipes and they have a nice deep rumble and are very loud when you jump on it but when I come home off a night shift if I keep the Rpm below 2000 its not too loud...I haven't had a complaint in the three years I've had my harley. Just be courteous and you can get away with some fairly loud pipes. At low rpm my bike isn't any worse than my neighbors with their chevy V-8 pickups.

where did you pick up the Khromeworks pipes? and how much did they run? Sitting next to someone with SE slip ons, is there much differance or do you know? Thanks for the info though.

I bought my KhromeWerks here from directparts. I think I paid about $180.00 each and since I was over a certain limit the shipping and handling was FREE. My father in law has screaming eagle II slip-ons and he's been kicking himself in the ass ever since I first showed up with mine. My pipes have a much deeper tone and are louder (but not annoyingly, drag pipe like) than his. I'd never heard about KhromeWerks before having them recommended to me here on this board. There are a lot of good slip-on pipes out ther (a friend of mine just bought Vance and hines that I really like) but what kind of sealed the deal for me was that they are made here in Minnesota...and if I can help keep a few jobs in the area I will. If I had to do all over again...I would ...I very much like these pipes.

Just put Hooker Tuned Flow slip-ons on my 89 flhtc/u last year. Liked the idea that they were tunable for noise/performance. I've been running stock pipes on the bike since I bought it new so my first set of loud pipes was a bit of a surprise, forget the radio which I used to really enjoy but I'd rather hear the pipes, they sound good.

If you ride easy they're not that loud but get on it and they get loud so in that respect they're also "tunable" for sound . Lot's of choices out there so good luck.

Hey Blues...you can always add an amplifier and boost those tunes up...works for me.

One note on the DFO / TFO Techlusion fuel tuners. These are all made made Techlusion and they work on the premise of adding fuel as HRK says. However they are also depending on you have the correct map or closest map for your configuration installed. According to the techs at Techlusion this is what makes the unit so effective. You are able to bring the fuel curve in line for the configuration and the correct timing map is in the ECM.

The upside is that they easy to use, and do work.

The downsides are it requires the proper stage to be loaded to work properly and you can only richen and not lean the mixture.

If you add the cost of a DFO to the cost of a Stage I you are actually paying more than you would for a PCIII.

wow

I still got the Kwrks on mine. They are from 01 and been on two bikes. ONly thing that survived the wreck, other than me, 5-1/2 years ago. put them on the 02 and been there since. all hte Screaming beagle2 buddies I have wished or actually have changed to them. Not sure if they are around anymore or work well with fuel injection. But with the new fuel injection setup being more adjustable, it might be worth looking into.

thanks HRK

I knew the company was around, but not sure about the my style (part number) of mufflers.
I've been looking into their beefy T's. Have ya ever got any handlebars from em? Thanks for any input you or other may have about their handlebars.