107 Kit & cams

You can see the Yellow line. That is where the map was before we changed it. If you look at the Blue line. That is where we moved it to.
Look at the arch in the cursing range.
If you notise the AFR's are 13.8. That is no where lean
Anytime I want I can go in and move the map back to the yellow lines.
We changed it as I said between like 1300 to 3000 rpm for fuel milage.

May go in and change the map to like 14.4 Afr in the cursing range later on
The Thunder-Max has like 2500 points for tuning just like the original SE map

Click on the map and it will git bigger.

Before you STOP and start thinkin what one will do or not do go buy one and run it. For somebody that don't know a lot . It does great for them.

I had a Power Commander V and had it dynoed 3 times and it erased part of the map each time.. When I traded the bike in. The 1st thing they did was take it off.


I have ran about 5 different tuners including the SERT.
And trying to find somebody that is good with a Sert is dang Hard. I couldn't find anybody here that could do it right..
Then every time you make a change.
Its back on the dyno and more money out the door.

And got friends who has bought the TTS for several bikes.
After a year they took em off. Couldn't find anybody to tune them and get rid of the problems.
Everybody Don't know how to tune with a TTS like you do.
And the Dude that was in AZ and wound up in Texas had Doc to spend at least 2 weeks years ago trying to tech him how to tune with a TTS which is the upgraded original Sert.


The bike ran super good.
Was looking for a little better fuel milage. And not waiting for it to dial in. And don't know how long it may take with the build I have.
If you can set the fuel curves it will get better fuel milage within a couple tanks.

I Had a Sert on my 07 bike, Had the dealerships to put it on the Dyno 7 times. Never ran right. Never got good fuel milage till I took the factory computer off and put the TM on.
All the problems I was having was gone.

If I didn't have the Thunder-Max I would probably be running the Power Vision.

You are Lucky you have the ability to understand the TTS and tune with it.

yep sure did. But I had asked for a dynoed map from Fuelmoto.
Looked at the map. It showed no fuel curves.
It just showed Auto tune on.
Auto tune and Auto map are two different things.

Left it alone and rode it for about 1000 miles, Got 33.8 mpg no matter how you rode it. No matter what the speed was.
Called them and they said I had a general map.
Emailed Jamie after he got back from the Holidays.
He said I got a dynoed map but it needs to tune .
to ride it and send him the leaned fuel curves.
But to not turn on Automap.
Don't know how its gonna learn with out auto map on.
Didn't buy the TM from him so I don't think he was gonna help a lot. And I ain't waiting.
Got a fiend that bought a Power Vision from him.
It had a dynoed map for a 110cu motor with woods 222 cams.
He looked at it and took the afro's from Idle to 3000 rpm and made a flow chart.
He also has a TM.
He took the chart and made AFR changes to the tables on the Thunder-Max map.
I also turned Auto map on.
On the 2nd tank of gas. I did all interstate riding. No stop and go. Rode about an adverse and got 49 mpg with 2 up riding
On the 3rd tank I rode 75mph and did a lot of stop and go riding and all. Gota little over 39 mpg with 2 up riding.
The map we changed was much better than what I got from FM.

Might go up just a little more with the Afrs in the fuel table in the cruising range from the 13.8 that we have set.

Don't know anybody anywhere that will tune with a Thunder-max.
And if you tune with a TTS you got to know that 13.8 Afr's is not lean.
What Thunder-Heart has said to me. And them make the Thunder-Max and write the software for it.
Is more maps are messed up by people people changing the timing.
And if you mess up the timing on the maps they will charge you.
In the Thunder-Max software. it has a part of the program where you run the bike at different rpm and it creates a log and you email it to Thunder-heart.
Tell them everything about the bike and what its doing.
They will make changes to the map for you.
And over the last year or so. The software has changed a couple times. Making it better.

All we changed it the Air Fuel Ratio man.

The base map for the setup should have the timing where it should be at with the cams and all.

And I have a 107. The Woods 222 cams that are in the 110cu motor and the Woods 555 that are in my bike are about the same cam.
The 555 just likes more compression and the 555 has more duration.

Buddy said the 222 cams we stuck in his SE SG really woke it up compared to the SE 255 cams.
He would never again run the se 255 cams after what he has learned.
The bike ain't the same bike.

You know yourself the timing is controlled by the cam you choose. and the compression.

Right.
That's why when you choose a base map. The 1st thing you look at is the size of the engine, then the Cam.
Then the kind of pipes.

What ain't right. Getting 40 mpg riding 2up.
And If I HAD of wanted a carb I would of gone and got a carbed bike.
I do not want a carved bike. Threw with the years of riding with a carbed.
Go buy a car with a carb.
let me know how you come out.

You pull the ECM fuse, Unplug the Factory ECm and plug the TM in.
You will need to however have a set of pipes that will accept 18mm Bungs.
That is another reason to get the Fuelmoto Stainless header pipes.
It has both the 12mm and 18mm bungs in them.

The 18mm are for the Wide Band auto tune sensors.


And the changes I was talking about. Is upgrading cams. Header pipes, High flow air kit, Etc.