107 Kit & cams

I listened to the Dealer say it would void my warranty over and over.
It really hits me upset to have a dealer to say that everything I do will void my warranty.
Asked them if they would write that down on Paper.
One dude that pushed it is no longer there. He's History.
I screamed at him with a Dealership full of people. And A lot of their customers left.
You can't make something that ONLY you can work on. If you do you have to provide service for free.
Couldn't get them to. They said they didn't have to work on my bike. They could refuse service if I did this or that.
Couldn't get them to write it on paper.
I got upset and told them what they could do with their warranty.
So I went all out and built the motor.

So you telling me It would Void my warranty is not really something I want to hear.

You telling me that it would void my warranty is not nothing I want to hear.
Tried to get the dealer to write that on Paper with a dealership full of people. One dude is not there anymore.
And they refused to write it on paper.

Hey FLHT I just did a 107
Ya think I still have a warranty.
Screw Harleys Warranty.
I will fix it myself .
If HD had of built the bike right. I wouldn't of had to do it myself.

And this ain't the 1st TM i've had on my bikes.
Never had any problems out of them.
But I have had problems with the Sert.

Harley doesn't sell a trailer I guess....But if he had a genuine HD side car,would the warranty have been honored?? I don't think a trailer would be any harder on the engine than a side hack Any time they can get an out,they'll take it.

What do you want me to do , sit in the house all the time and watch tv.
Most people that buy Harleys change things., Header pipes, mufflers, High flow air kits. upgrades motor kits.

I've ran a TM on this bike for 3 yrs.
Ran it on another 07 bike.

Not many of us can afford the top of the line HD bikes.
I refuse to give HD 40,000 for a bike.

you keep your sert.
you don't have a better tuner than me.
Just a person that knows how to tune yer Sert.

And i can't take my bike to Mike.
And not paying 500.00 for a sert.
And it marries to the bike. I'm against that also.

They told me that. And several customers overheard what they said.
And could see I was frustrated with the Dealership.
They come over and said I will not buy anything here if that is how they feel, and walked out the door, while I was still pissed off talking to the dude at the dealership .
I want everybody to know about a dealership like that. I want a lot of people to put pressure on them.

The same chain of dealerships, I had some of the power coating to come off the frame on another bike. & my tranny was making a noise.
They was gonna take touch up paint and touch it up. And said the tranny was fine.
I said No way. Took it to a dealership 100 miles away.
They had to fight but got it repaired like new. And replaced all the bearings in the tranny under warranty.

Seen on a Old EVo that a dude had and was pulling a trailer behind his bagger. The frame at the front down tubes broke loose.
He had a buddy of mine to reweld it for him.

You wanna put stress on the front forks and steering head?! Put a sidecar on! I ran a sidecar for a couple years it builds up yer arms shoulders and back muscles. That's why there's earl style forks on those imported hack rigs.


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The dealership Service mgr took the time to send the pictures to Harley and complain over and over.
They sent him the stuff and he sent the bike out to a Paint and Body shop and if I remembered HD told them what to do and how to use the product.
It came back and you could never tell it had ever happened.
I didn't have the bike for like 2 1/2 to 3 months for all the stuff.
I was about the climb the wall with no bike.

Seen a dude bring his bike to a dealership for some warranty work to be done
The service mgr said before you bring your bike in I would take the trailer hitch off 1st
Cause if you don't I can 't honor your warranty.
To me he did good for his customer


HD made the rule
They been getting a little tight
But they need to start thinking more about their customers instead if the stock holders

A lot of their customers are getting tired of their song
If you do anything to your bike we will Void your warranty
Look at all the aftermarket stuff they have
HD just wants the money for putting it on

The fact is hes not doing anything different that we do while smart tunning. The fuel map changes are a requested change not a command the fuel offsets need to be learned after the o2 sensor con firms what the engine burnt via rpm and throttle position .its an alpha n input method of tunning the software is easier for the customer is all your not looking at a ve table your looking at tp vs rpm thats all .but the long term and short term fuel trims must be reloaded after they are learn.

Cam timing and ignition timing are totaly diffrent from one another.

without a doubt ! but like we look for the closest cam due to the vacum reading on the map sensor the software does not take the map sensor input as a load . so its a little more forgiving . they look at the wide band sensor as a confirmation that the correct amount of injector pulse witdh was givin . for the amount of fuel requested by the software operator . we look at the map as a load to ve and throttle input . all they are concerned with is tp ect wide band o2 rpm from crank sensor map is just used as a baro reading. just like the magnetti merelli system.

BaggerPaul don't know if yer interested.

But you should setup an account with Thunder-Heart.
And look Now at going to White House, Tennessee to some classes they are giving on advanced tuning the TM
They are offering some TM for a killer deal.
And if anybody in yer area wants a TM and you are setup as a dealer.
They will send the customer to you.
And if the person wants the TM tunes they will send him to you.

Sincerely,

Alan Phelps
Thunder-Max Customer Support

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