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117" Revisited

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by JohnnyBiker, Jun 8, 2015.

  1. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Lmfao. Ok, so I'm caught. Lol
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    HAS JB entered the fuel injected world yet ?
    Completely different than Carbed.
    The world of carbed is gone.
    Need to learn the new world and all
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    I'm not sure on that, the transmission is different on a 96 co, I've never heard of someone putting a 96 in a pre-07 chassis. I'm not saying it won't fit but I'm pretty sure the 5 speed tranny will not bolt up.
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    I'll second that one on the brakes. The 2012 with the ABS pulling the trailer is a lot easier to haul down than the 85 is. and this 85 had the upgraded brakes and suspension. I don't think I'll be doing a lot of engine work to the oldie. I can go slow and whoa slow in it quite nicely
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I'll take a good carbed CV bike anyday, eliminate
    all the EFI whatzits and thingamabobs, injectors
    mapping, curves, blah blah blah

    Bolt on a Woods Rebel CV and haul butt....

    Nothing wrong with EFI, it's very precise
    but sometimes ya just need a carb and a softail...
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    You are sure getting cranky these days.:rolleyes:
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    They why don't you sell that SE Harley of your and go back to a Carbed bike if you like em so much ?
    Nobody is stopping you. You can jump right back on a Carbed bike.
    You can go back to playing with the needle valves and seats sticking .
    Floats hanging up. Ortifice tubes getting stopped up from Ethanol gas and trash in them. Or gas running out the carbs.
    You can go back to having to turn the petcock off everytime you cut the bike off so gas don't leak in on the cylinders and fill up the crankcase with gas.

    Personally I do not know a single soul that has bought a newer EFI bike and wants to go back to Carbs and a bike that viberates your hands off.
    And you got to pull a choke to get it cranked.
    They like the day of turning the switch on and pushing the button on and riding.

    The day in the near future is coming when the EPA and federal government is gonna totally eliminate carbed motors because of the pollution they put out.
    Watch for the inspection stations to bring stronger restrictions on it in the very near future.

    No outboard mfg can produce a boat motor with a carb.
    No cars are allowed to produce a motor with a carbed.

    If I remember correctly California totally does not even allow carbed or 2 stroke motors . You can't even have a 2 stroke weed eater.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Already did all that. Bigger engine than your 117. Never had carb problems


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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Why ain't you still riding it ?
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Turned it into a helicopter bike

    Ride one day
    Work on it for a week

    Big inch power on a stock bike
    Will find the weak link every time

    Fact is never should have sold it got tired of
    Working on it and sold it When the next "fix"
    Was a new $4k tranny to keep up with the power
    It made
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    Yep I love my road glide and my 103.but my carb dyna is a lot of fun and I got boxes of jets!and needles after all these years.
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    I just love bikes. Carb, EFI, doesn't matter to me.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Me either,

    But spending a lot of green to go efi vs staying carb
    Doesn't make fiscal sense
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    So what would be the advantage of going EFI vs just leaving it as a carbed bike. My 95 inch 2003 carbed bike simply runs great and can't think of any reason why I would want to make it into a EFI bike. I would just leave it as it is, just me.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Ability to fine tune the bike at all throttle positions timing fuel etc

    Overall though I'm betting the cost to performance ratio
    Results in a big dollar per hp gained, if any
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    Your right the cost would be way out of sight as to value. As for tuning I'd put my carbed 95 inch up against any 95 EFI bike out there. Quit frankly the further they take these bikes into the future the less I'm liking them.
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    Having the ability to tune front and back cylinders pefect. Is impossible with a carb .with that being said it is much better than a carb for touring around the country.the power a carb bike v.s a efi bike are far from the same in the mid and upper rpm area .the can both be tuned very well but you can have perfection with efi .both cylinders.
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    But the cost to convert a carbed bike is way out of sight making it unrealistic. I would sell it and upgrade it with a newer style bike that is already a fuel injection bike.
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    I'm sure it is pricy no doubt I don't disagree with that statement. That being said I had even spoken to John about that exact thing .I have to respect that he likes that bike much more than the new one and had a green light to do it .and decided to just upgrade his current bike .I'm sure it will be less than 27.oooo grand got to give him that.! And I can't disagree with him.
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    Seen people for years ride a brand new bike or buy onew say this thing runs terrible.
    My OLD bike runs a lot better.
    Ya know the worst thing about buying a new bike.
    Breaking them in.
    No new bike that is tight is going to run like a broke in bike.
    Broke too many of them in.
    Very 1st thing after like 15,000 miles I did a cam & tuner.

    New bikes are really great once you get over 5000 miles on them.
    Then once you clear 15,000 they get better again .
    And with HD raising the compression ratio that's even better.
    Something they should od done years agi.

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