2013 engine into a 2008 frame

figured I'd get something with abs and a bit more power. I don't know if the newer frame is head and shoulders better than the old frame. All I know is that the old frame with the smaller rear tire tipped into corners easier than the newer style. Sometimes I think my '04 was easier to ride than the 12.

If I remember correctly, the primary gasket on the 07 I had was a different gasket then the 08 primary gasket. Don't remember why.

Yea they work, but the frame flexes more. And flip flops in the curves more.
Also Harleys new frames was to incorporate the new ABS you like so much.
There was no place for it on the older frames.

How'd you ever make it without killing yerself without ABS Holems.

Yer just getting OLDER Holes.

Exactly what year was your older bike that the flywheel come apart or whatever it did. And wasn't it a SE model.
And what is your new model.

There are wealthy guys on my club that have 3 or more newer harleys. They all say that the ones with the wider rear tire takes more to lean. That includes dressers, Fatboys and heritage models. But they still love them.

I'll take the newer fat tire myself. Just not the ones with the radiators.

The newer ones leans just as good as the older ones if you hacve the right rubber on them.

Go buy a Perelli Night dragon tire and put them on the newer ones and tell me.
Then do the progressive Monotubes in the front and progressive 944 UT shocks in the reat.

The older bagger frames were not consistently stiff enough - I know, as I have the '99. Got a severe death wobble back in 2000 and nearly bit it when I was riding in CA. Put in a Bagger Brace - problem solved.

Dang, that sure ain't encouraging!

I know I'm getting older and maybe a little bit slower but the old bike, with the true track on it was very settled and planted. I may need some more miles on the limited but I'm not as confident in the front end on it.

Both the 04 and the 12 were lowered. the 04 was lowered in the rear only, and the 12 was lowered both ends. Stock frame to stock frame yes the 04 would weave a little when pushed but the true track solved the weave. I put a true track on the 12 as well so I'm trying to compare apples to apples. The smaller profile of the rear tire allowed the older bike to tip into the corner easier than the wider tired newer model. for some reason I find the front end on the newer bike seems to be harder on tires than the old bike. It handles well but once you get some cupping on the front. The new bike is a lot less happy than the old one was. This may not matter to 99 per cent of the population but the metal down the sides of the rear fender of the newer frame is a lot less robust than that of the older bike. When you put a trailer hitch on the older bike it was solidly mounted and you had no worries of breaking any hard parts on the back of the bike. The newer one mounts differently in respect to keep from busting up the back of the bike. Unfortunately you get some flex and lateral movement on the hitch ball, not super desirable when you're pulling a trailer. I have progressives 944 in the back and I'll likely put something in the front end to firm it up a little. The numbers may say that the new frame is fantastic and all and while it's probably better, I'm not seeing the night and day difference. I'd say the bike is competent

Comparing apples to passion fruit; I installed on my 05 Fatboy progressive rear shocks (std height ) and progressive Monotubes in the forks ( std height) and the difference in handling, planting in the turns is night n day. The suspension plays an unbelievable roll on the softtails anyway. More so than any Japanese bike I modified with progressive shocks and springs.