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88 CI to 98 CI UPGRADE

Discussion in 'Projects' started by JohnnyBiker, Nov 21, 2012.

  1. JohnnyBiker

    JohnnyBiker Well-Known Member

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    Thanks CB, but I am not so sure that I want to drill these out. I spoken to a few different people and they had all said that with the upgraded breather assemblies installed there should be no reason to drill these holes out. Just wanted to point out that the picture does not show a stock Harley Support Plate. What you are looking at is a JIMS Support plate that I bought from DJL. I have not at this point compared the diameters of the holes so I am not sure if these are bigger than stock. Going to an 0.125" hole seems like a very large increase from this diameter, if I were to do it, I may go one size up. Maybe...:D
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    That is a 1/8 dude
    Talked to Red about it tonite

    You do what you want
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    JB,
    I'm going to throw my 2 cents worth in here. It's your build and you have picked the parts very carefully, pick one adviser and stick with what he advises. As close as you seem to be with Bagger Paul, he'd be a good one for you. Otherwise as you see on here everyone has an opinion and not all are right for your build. JMO and now I'll go back to watch from the sidelines. Good Luck and Merry Christmas.
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    Other than the cylinder pressure choice hes got a nice build . not that its a bad thing to have high compression .lol i like it too lmfao , tends to be a little of a mfer some times even with compression releases but he will get it tuned when hes done just will take some time on the dyno . the build should pull hard for a heavy bike looking at his parts and applying a four cycle logic from a auto tech dont consider my self a bike tech . just one who has taken what he has learned over the years of wrenching and working on my bike and other friends bikes over the years it should run very well depending on head work and exhaust choice . the pipe can make or break the build and unfortunate to say they is no way to forsee what a build needs for exhaust . you can assume and do math so as not to over exhaust a build on paper but i have never seen the math work out perfect . so it trial and error on a dyno for tunning . i have a shed full of pipes .lmfao. he should be happy with his out come , the one thing that is most important here is he has the ability to do the work and can say i chose the parts i built my motor and he can learn like we all did . we all learn something from each other every day and its a great thing . some things we take in and some we choose not to and thats ok . and if its a mistake we learn from it . the out come of this build will be around his riding style . and that is most important . and if he has to make changes in the future he wont be pointing a finger at any builder and saying you sold me these parts and now it dont run the way i want . john has the ability of doing research like no other pain in the ass i have seen !!!!! but he is smart in doing so ! witch is what some of us dont do .and then the outcome sucks. and we whine about it ! he has the patience to do it and sometimes I sit behind the screen and want to choke him . but i know what he is doing gaining knowledge and making good calls . he sometimes pisses us off but he keeps learning . good for you jb ! keep at it .
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    AWWWWWEEEEE! Can I have a HUG????:roflmao::roflmao: Thanks for the vote of confidence there BP. I was just not looking forward to paying someone the labor for this project. I am learning so much about the Harley Twin Cam that I feel silly for being intimidated. :roflmao: I am finding out that these engines are really simple. So many people seem to exaggerate the complexity of them. Hey, I have received a lot of good advice and look forward to getting more. :cool:
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    Its just an old tractor engine....
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    You still don't know who Santa is????? :eek:
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    Yeah Yeah yeah, That's all fine and good, but what I wanna know is will Slick 50 make my scooter faster? :confused:
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    Yes it will...less weight in yer wallet...you go faster....If you want to go really really fast...paint the bike black...the fastest color:devil:
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    If you want to go really really fast...paint the bike black...the fastest color:devil:[/QUOTE]

    Everybody knows THAT !:cool:
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    i got some muffler bearings that make the exhaust flow smooth if ya want to buy them also gumba!
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    Today I am going to switch all of the rocker support shafts out, drill the holes out to an 1/8" in the support plates and install the breather assemblies. I have had some time off from work so I have been just kicking back with the family. watching football and drinking beer. Oh yeah, I think that I am going to install the new orings that I purchased as well that go into the lower rocker boxes. Cost me a whole $1.50 for those... LOL:D

    Merry Christmas Everyone!!
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    Take it easy on the egg nog w/Jack while workin on her.
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    Yeah, Ol' Jack and even 1 beer too many can cause VERY expensive mistakes! :roflmao:
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    Well for the last couple of weeks I have taken a little break from dealing with anything bike related. Instead I decided to focus my attention on something other than bikes, but that time has passed and now it is time to get back to it.

    Just before the holidays, I had ran into a small but possibly very bad issue. It has been somewhat cold here so I have been periodically checking things that I left in the garage to make sure that all of the metal parts are rust free. all was good out there. I had then decided to check my camshafts that I have been keeping in the house. Well, this last time that I had checked them, I was not impressed at all. The following is what I saw.

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    I will have to say that I was freaking out a little bit when I first saw this. Actually, I was pretty pissed. I was fairly confident that this was fixable but I must admit that there was a slight doubt in mind. Thank God that it is only surface rust that is present. After talking to a couple of people, I came to the conclusion that I will attempt to fix these instead of getting bent out shape and just buying new ones, although it did ppass through my mind heavily.

    After a little bit of discussion I decided that I am going to use some scotch brite, wd40, and some very fine steel wool. I first used the scotch brite and I soaked it in WD40 and I began to rub going in direction only on both the lobes and the bearing journal. As I was doing this I was also wearing some rubber gloves so I would not transfer any salt or moisture back onto the part. After I had rubbed off all of the rust, I gave the cams a bath in warm water and rubbed them down with a rag. Once that was done, I blasted them with air and then dried them down with a hair dryer. Once that was done, I put assembly lube on the lobes of the cams and also on the journals and I wrapped them in a paper towel soaked with a thin engine oil. Here is what they look like now.

    The one on the left was the bad one. I did do both to be safe..

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    After their bath..

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    Thanks Bagger Paul for the tips.

    Today I was also able to get some other small things done. Today I finally switched the to the JIMS support plates, drilled out the holes that are on the bottom of the breathers to .125", replaced the rocker arms supports in the JIMS support plates, installed the new breather assemblies and I also changed out the o rings that in the lower rocker boxes. Soon I will be getting all of the bolts set and take a wire brush to them and clean off all of the old locktite. Some progress...
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    Good save:)Did you do the same with your rocker arms and shafts??Get a good coating of oil on anything they may rust if they're going to be sitting a while...I've got a set of TP roller rockers and shafts that have been sitting in a little tub of oil for a couple of years...rust sucks:banghead:
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    Yes, as I was installing the the rocker arm shafts I decided that I was going to put some assembly lube on the rollers as well. Only makes sense. I went to take a look at my roller rockers and those are perfect so I did not put anything on those. Rust does suck!!! Brand new shafts so no I did not do anything with the scotch brite or steel wool.:D
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    Darn good save there for a fat tire yankee in the cold north :roflmao:, hope this build works out just right for ya:cool:
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    put some assembly lube on them and wrap up in a baggie (one each)
    you need to keep them in oil or it's gonna come back.

    do you have a dehumidifier in your home?

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