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Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by marc 55, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Not personal we shouldn't agree.

    Vision has no faring look closer. It has a body shell fixed front end that is part of the whole bike like the wing ding. It's more along the lines of a road glide than an ultra

    The cross your is a good match for the ultra

    The non tour victory is like street glide

    Ya need to get outta the house lol


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    badinfluence63 Well-Known Member

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    Good because I guess it's best to agree to disagree. HD and Indian put up there top tourer. Victory did not. Instead they put up there best bike not the bike equal to the Indian or Harley Davidson tourer choices. It's kinds bogus on Victory company.
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    I have not ridden the new Harley nor the Roadmaster. I've ridden the Victory, a Chieftan, and my '12 Limited. The Indian left my Harley for dead on a roll on, the Victory was a nice ride and the Harley just fit me better. It was a bit of a stretch for me on the Victory, don't like having the feet out front that much, The floorboards are adjustable but I'm on a demo bike so they are not set up for me. I have some friends on Victorys and they flat out love them. I'd have to see how the Rushmore bikes are, but Harley needs to up the power somewhat.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I would say the victory used was the correct bike

    The vision is not in that group

    Now road glide vs wing vs vision would be correct
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Note bars turned faring not clearly a fixed faring bike

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    badinfluence63 Well-Known Member

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    Ultra vs Roadmaster vs Vision vs Goldwing. Top vs top vs top vs top tourer. Contest wasn't about fixed vs fixed or not fixed vs not fixed. I took the article to read tourers on the road. That was the name of the article "V-twin Tourers on the open road". "indian vs victory vs hd" one would be lead to expect the Vision when compared with the roadmaster and Indian not excuses or erroneous misguided explanations by the viewing public. Victory purposefully dropped the ball when they replaced the Vision with cross country. Top vs top vs top. No excuses. Just accurate results.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Change ultra to rg ultra which hd doesn't Make

    Hd should have sent cvo By your standards thrn
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    CVO is a gussied up ultra. Bigger engine,better radio( XM radio), heated grips,seat(?) but still an ultra by scale.
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    I agree with BD but also think the Victory bikes are but ugly. Even the Indian to me is ugly with its pushed in flat nose. They should call the Indian, broken nose.

    The Vision is really one ugly bike and they should get an engineer in their with some real vision and redesign it :).

    They can put all the power in them they want but if their ugly then sales will slip.
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    RG Ultra is currently a CVO model and by the articles standard Victory should have sent the Vision. Article title as stated "V-twin tourers on the open road." It didn't say not fixed fairing tourers on the open road! That was just you reading into it,your opinion. I'm going by the titled of the article. I call BS on Victory,not you RK.
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    Yep and one good looking CVO Ultra Limited.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Roadglide Ultra is a standard Roadglide Ultra. Their is a Roadglide CVO Ultra limited. One is all gussied up with the 110 motor and one is just a plain Jane Ultra Roadglide
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    Beg to differ FLHT. They only offer the RG Ultra in the CVO Line in 2015.... go look on the MOCO web page and see.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    You have to buy the trunk separate
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    It's not a production RG Ultra.
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    Good write up on the cross country how about the Star Trek machine,the Vision? Skimmed through the article but hope to read the whole article. I sense the author is anti harley by a few of his comments.

    The XCT looks better than the Vision. Hopefully they phase out the Vision.

    Reading further in the history section further supports they should have used the vision in the comparrison. They sound like they gussied up the street glide wannabe cross country with a tour pac. The Vision was their first and true touring rig.

    I can see though why they went with the XCT instead of the Vision in the comparrison because it was new to their touring line but the Vision would have been the more accurate comparrison.

    What I've read makes the XCT sound like a decent bike,contradictory to the comparrison article. Wonder which one is telling the truth?
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    It really depends on the market the company is targeting with their machines. Walk into a Victory dealer and chances are you will not see a Vision on the floor. It was a styling exercise that only a few like. Their day in day out touring machine is the cross country tour. The rag asked for manufacturers touring bikes and those three are what the manufacturers loaned. Your way should have also included the Goldwing, kawasaki, BMW, a Triumph, et al. If that were to happen the results would have been far different.


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    Geez Fatboy the article stated "V-twin" as well as "American Beef" thereby excluding the Goldwing,Kawasaki, bmw, triumph. The damned Vision should have been in the run off not the XCT.

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