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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by amf4399, Jul 27, 2009.

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  1. cardboard

    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Two sets for the rear and one set for the front, it adds up fast.
    cardboard, Feb 22, 2010
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  3. chucktx

    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    that is backwards........2 to 1 on changing....front gets changed twice as often as the rear.....if you are using your brakes correctly........
    chucktx, Feb 22, 2010
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    When I'm going slow or turnin in I never touch my front brakes.
    That's the reason a lot of folks lay their big biked down.
    I always try to hit my back brakes 1st then the front.


    YouTube - Ride Like a Pro Rider Skills Show
    cardboard, Feb 22, 2010
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  5. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Rear brakes are good for control on a big bike as far as parking, turning tight etc

    But for every bike the fronts are the key to stopping quickly...

    The reason pads for a chevy or ford are cheaper is that they make millions of them a year

    the volume on HD's isn't anywhere near that...
    hotroadking, Feb 22, 2010
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    The Ride Like A Pro DVD’s are great, I have number 5 which I think is the last one put out. I also take the Experienced Rider Course every couple of years. We all have some kind of riding bad habit and the training helps keep those habits in check. Beside the course is fun when taken with a group of friends. Money well spent.
    HarleysLR, Feb 22, 2010
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    Agree on money well spent - I had the chance to meet this guy and his wife last year at a show they put on in Ohio; bought the DVD then and there and for 20 bucks I think I got my moneys worth. Watch it a couple of times and it helps to keep in check the bad moves that we all do once in awhile.
    Also agree with takin a refresher course every so often to get rid of the bad habits that git ya in trouble.:)
    sarge7, Feb 23, 2010
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  8. cardboard

    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Thought I give mine to Chucktx, but he never watched it.

    Watchin the Video and tryin to practise what they show can easily git yer bike laid on the blacktop and skint up.:gah:
    cardboard, Feb 23, 2010
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  9. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I"ve seen the show several times at Daytona, Leesburg etc.

    Basically its a couple of techniques that you can use
    to learn better parking lot control

    1) never use the front brake on slow speed maneuvers, that's where you go down.
    2) Friction zone, find it, that place where the clutch engages and disengages, ride the zone
    3) Throttle, keep power up (not WFO) but keep the revs up so you can use the Zone
    4) Rear Brake, using the rear slows the bike in a straight line and stands it up,
    5) Look lean and roll - Look over your shoulder, lean in and use the zone and rear brake and you can do a U turn in a very small area with a full bagger

    Watched a LEO do a full U on Main street from the inside of the lane between rows of parked bikes..
    hotroadking, Feb 24, 2010
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Ain't got to worry about me doing the tricks in the Video.
    cardboard, Feb 24, 2010
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  11. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I didn't see it as a trick video, and learned just watching the show,
    Made turning my Softail in a tight area easier, I was already doing some of it
    looking over the shoulder, etc..

    Just refined the move.

    Plus you look cooler if you can swing and turn a big azz bike in a tight area while
    your buddies are doing the duck walk across and back to get the bike turned LOL

    Quack Quack Quack Quack LOL

    Hows this a little gal with a big ol guy on the back doing tight turns

    IN the shows they do it to show you how tight a turn can be made
    BTW he was trained by and then did most of the training for the Florida Highway Patrol motormen...

    YouTube - Ride Like a Pro Rider Skills Show
    hotroadking, Feb 24, 2010
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    So true about using the front brake when going slow. I do have to remind myself though.
    HellBoy, Feb 24, 2010
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    Watched a few dudes that watched the Video go out in a parkin lot and drop their bikes a few times. Rear view mirrow and crash bars and fairings catch hell.
    But a rat bike to learn how to do these things on.

    It also puts more stress on yer brakes.
    I don't need to be seeing how tight of a circle I can turn.
    I don't need to be any cooler than I already am.:cool:
    If I did I couldn't leave home without a jacket.

    I just enjoy gittin out of the house and ridin.
    cardboard, Feb 24, 2010
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    Rules man Rules, things seems to happen when you break the rules.:rant:
    cardboard, Feb 24, 2010
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    Hotroadking is absolutely correct on the technique for tight turns using the rear brake. I've used that method for years and can turn my Ultra in a figure 8 box at a MSF training course. It really comes in handy when you need to do a U turn on a two lane road or in a gas station. You also need to remember when doing that to shift your weight to counter balance and yes look where your wanting to go. Head turns are very important and I'll bet Abby will attest to that. :D
    FLHTbiker, Feb 24, 2010
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    if your gonna practice, put pipe wrap on the crashbars....it will save them, and when first starting out, you will need them.......
    chucktx, Feb 24, 2010
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  17. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah I don't do it too look cool
    I do it so I can prove I can ride
    duck walking is wrong LOL

    I haven't dumped it yet but I've been close.

    I would bet the guys were showing off that they could
    do the turns and got too aggressive initially

    Best to take it wider, get a feel for the way
    the bike will act/react

    nothing better feeling than being able to crack a U turn in a tight space
    or be able to whip it around without dropping the feet while your buds
    are quacking away in the parking lot

    quackk quawakkk quawwwakkk LOL
    hotroadking, Feb 24, 2010
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  18. ringo912

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    Brake pad wear is directly related to riding style and technique. A lot of stop n go city ridng will wear the pads quicker than long distance cruising. However, if you are using proper braking techniques, your front pads will tend to wear more than the rears. A lot of rdiers, especially those that are new to riding, tend to wear out the rear pads first. The brakes in yor cage are applied with the foot peddle. So this natual sub-conscience act carries over when ridng on two wheels. One of the other reasons some riders are hesitant to use the front brake agressively, is, they think the bike will do an end over.

    Just like with a cage, at a minimum 70% of your stopping power is in the front brakes. This is because the forward momentum shifts the weight of the vehicle forward when you apply the front brakes. The forward shift of the weight compresses the suspension and puts more pressure on the front tire. This resluts in increased traction of the tires contact patch on the road.

    Other factors will affect wear also, warped rotors, added weight from a passenger or being loaded up for a long trip. Again, like ChuckTx said, if your braking properly, you will probably wear out the frony pads first. I use my rear brake about 10% of the time I'm riding.

    On my 02' Heritage I run the stock HD organic pads, no dust and I get about 25K miles on a set of pads. I have 34K on the bike and have only changed the pads once. Hope this helps, and after all this typing, I'm taking a BRAKE..:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:
    ringo912, Feb 25, 2010
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