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Castrol Vtwin 20-50

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by cardboard, Oct 8, 2010.

  1. chucktx

    chucktx Moderator Staff Member

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    ya get more flavor with lard...........my favorite!!!:)
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    You boys are gonna get into trouble sayin stuff like that.

    I'm not a petroleum engineer either, but I respect the folks at S.A.E. and A.P.I. for their 90+ years of testing of all things automotive (of which motorcycle engines fall under). Don't know or care about JASO or the European tests since they are merely "take-offs" from SAE, who wrote the book.

    If SAE rates an oil that "meets or exceeds" SL/SM/CF, there is no higher rating available period. All you can do is pick a higher viscosity for the v-twin and change it when conditions require. Amsoil states their oil "exceeds" the requirements. If you feel you need that extra protection, fine. But your engine won't know the difference if you simply change the oil when needed.

    Lastly, oil for a diesel IS different than oil for a gas engine.
  3. cardboard

    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Oil for Diesel has always been a different Oil.
    It has a specific purpose with the additives that you don't need in a gasoline engine.
  4. big_jake57

    big_jake57 Active Member

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    Won't buy anything from Castrol. Might be the best oil in the world,,, but sponsorships (racing) work both ways.
  5. cardboard

    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Sorry man.

    When I used to run dirt bikes I used castrol oil.
    Use castrol in my wifes f150

    Work for a boat mechanic. He's been to all the schools
    We use 40 weight castrol in the inboard engines.

    Like it in my motorcycle.

    I'm not lookin for a sponsership
  6. cowboy

    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    ya even john force is having trouble with castrol & after 25 years with them , But i have run castrol in a lot of my mopars for many years , & run amsoli in all my engines now
  7. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I just wished Amsoil was more readily available, especially when your on the road. We all say oh I'll carry a quart or two with me, but do we really and what if you need more than a quart or two.
  8. cowboy

    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    you look on a computer & find it , My brother said he could'nt find it eather so stop running it , I looked it up when he was here & found a dist right down the street from him in Alb NM , ,& yes I do carry a qt in my saddle bag , but worsts come to worst any oil is better then no oil
  9. cardboard

    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    What kind of trouble.......
  10. cowboy

    cowboy Moderator Staff Member

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    he said on race day a couple of week's ago he was having trouble signing with them & after one of his passes he did'nt mention castrol at all but did say all the rest of his sponcers
  11. HarleysLR

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    if ya need more than a quart you got some other kind of trouble, the only times I've needed to add is when we run 600 to 700 miles a day in 100 plus temps.
    I think more and more dealers are carring Amsoil now.
  12. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Mobil 1 V-twin... works great
    yes there are modifiers in V-twin that are designed to
    improve the ability to help air cooled engines
    that are NOT in the Mobil 1 auto....

    HD in it's manual does approve the use of diesel rated oils
    for the Vtwin...

    20W-50 is not the only approved viscosity, read the manual
    it depends on the temp range where you live. Colder
    areas are allowed to used thinner viscosity for easier start.

    If you live in MN and are not changing to a thinner oil
    in the colder months you can.... you don't have to, but you can..

    Mobil 1 red cap has been used by many for years
    in vtwins it will work.

    Dyno oil will work, just change it

    Better thing about syn is it doesn't break down
    as quickly at the higher temps in the air cooled HD
    engine, so it cleans better, longer, you will have
    less opportunity to sludgeificate your engine..
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Ya seen synthetic in straight weight Oil............
  14. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I wouldn't run a straight weight oil unless I was racing a drag bike, JMO but
    we need the sliding viscosity of a multi-weight such as 20W50.

    You have to remember that our machines today are built to much
    tighter tolerances than they were in the old shovel days, heck even
    more so than the original evos. You have to get the oil flowing quicker
    today.

    The oil when cold flows like a 20 weight, to help get moving through all the passages
    and assist with better lubrication at start up, this is critical, as we have dry sump
    engines, you need to get that little pump moving and oil flowing up the passages
    into all the crevasses to assure you won't have metal on metal.

    Straight weight won't do that.... a 60wt is 60 at 20 degrees and 300 degrees.

    Stick with the recommended sliding viscosity weight lube.

    Now I do think Amsoil or one of those guys has a 60 wt syn...
  15. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I like Redline V-twine Syn oil in the engine, trans and primary. I know each to their own but its been a good oil for me and its readily accessible here. I always carry an extra quart on long trips just in case.
    I do not like the HD Syn3 oil, used in a bike once and started getting metal flakes on the magnet. That is when I switched to Redline, no more metal flakes.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    I've used syn 3 in more than one bike.

    If yer having problems with flakes you can have the oil tested.
    It wil tell the truth, and not what is n yer head.

    Oil Analyzers, Inc. - Oil Analysis, Oil Testing Services
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Sorry Cardboard to me Syn3 is junk, will never use it again. There are far better Synthetic motorcycle oils out there than Syn3. I also noticed that it made noises in the engine where other oils didn't and Redline helped the engine run quieter.
  18. hotroadking

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    Won't use Syn3,
    the manufacturing company
    for HD is Citgo aka Chavez Oil....
  19. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    That's another good reason.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Hmmmmmmmmmm

    We git gas from them.
    And they have not attacked the U.S. or killed anybody.
    We need Oil from whereever we can git it. We use the hell out of oil.

    But the aRabs has and does everyday and we still buy mass quanities of oil from them.

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