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Discussion in 'Projects' started by JohnnyBiker, Sep 19, 2013.

  1. hotroadking

    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    IT will if he's smart and doesn't try and build a 117 on the edge,
    keep the compression down in the mid to high 9's so you can ride to Sturgis
    and back without detonation, get cams that make good power don't get drawn into the HP wars of others on the net and ride it reasonably it will last

    Bulk cube engines are fun but they can be nightmares if over done
    and the rest of the drivetrain will have to be built up to match up.
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    Fuel milage will be about 25 mpg if he twist the throttle much.
    Whole bike can't take the stress from the power of the motor.
    Frame is the Old frame and will flex very hard.
    Brakes are the Old kind of brakes. Won't stop the bike very good.

    Tranny probably won't hold up long.
    He will be working on it all the time.

    And real high lift cams are gonna mean higher rpms before it kicks in.
    And you need to keep the rpms up for it to run right.
    Higher lift cams and too much compression can make the bike buck and not fun to ride.


    But some people have to spend 10,000 and loose all the money to learn what people are trying to tell them.. They got to be the biggest guy on the block.

    Got a few buddys that has built 5 engines till they quit.

    Buddy just trades a 2005 Ultra Classic he did a 124 motor in on a 2012 Ultra Limited. He has changed the air kit. Every thing else is stock.
    He likes the fuel milage.
    He really has tried to get me to let him ride my bike several times.
    He says go ride my bike.
    Why mine was the same bike as yours before I start the upgrades.
    If you ride my bike, you are not gonna be happy with yours any more.

    Another buddy with a SE SG that has cams in it. Says my bike runs too good.
    I can ride 2 up and his 110cu can't outrun me. And he weights like 145 lbs.


    Nother reason I replied to do a 88 to 107 . Hell of a motor
    Would bet you have rode neither.
    And both will outrun yer sporty.

    And if you get a motor. The 113 has all the power you can handle or need..

    Best all around engine.

    I'm running 10:5.1 compression ratio.
    Bike don't run hot. Gets good fuel milage. And will be over 100 in 4th gear fast.
    Don't wind gears all day.

    But the youngans need to learn the hard way so let me move out of the way so they can blow the money. The economy needs it.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Very true Cardboard.
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah I already have that T-shirt, went from 88 to 124,
    the old saying is
    "how fast ya wanna go?"
    "how much money ya got"

    I could get north of mid 40's with my 124 taking it easy
    in 6th gear at 65 mph to 70. But get on it and it's passing
    everything but a gas pump...

    Probably averaged high 30's but honestly couldn't
    care about mileage, fugging thing was a rocket...

    YOu are correct, JB needs to go on and order the Fat5 baker
    or a DD6 with a taller first gear because he won't be able
    to launch a 117 with the stock first gear without pulling the front
    end every time or spinning the rear. Stock 1st is too short.
    and the stock tranny isn't going to hold up, the stock trap door can't
    handle the spring pressure from the high performance clutch he'll need and
    that clutch will need the stiffest spring, putting more pressure on the trap door.

    I pulled the mainshaft bearing right out of the cases snapped the trap door into
    small pieces, lucky I'm alive since it happened at 20 MPH, otherwise at 80, adios!
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    Don't mean to insult anybody's riding. And that is probably how it will be taken.

    But if yer not used to a bike with more than 100hp.
    Then no need to start with a 117, 124. or 131 or bigger.
    Just toooo much money to throw away.

    And with all the power, its easy for the bike to get away from you, or git herself killed.

    And remember you have a kid to take care of and a Wife.

    With the bigger motor.
    Be prepared to upgrade everything on the bike. And work on it all the time.
    Cause yer gonna tear BS up all the time.
    And yer tires go faster than you can put them on.
    Laugh now. but it ain't a joke.

    And you can't pass a service station without stopping.

    And when you build a big motor . How the hell can you drive 65mph.
    With the way it runs. Yer lucky if you don't get a ticket fast too.

    So tell me this HRK. Why are you riding a SE RG instead of a 124 right now Redneck ?
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    hotroadking Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Got tired of putting money in the 2000 bike. Plus it was time for a change

    I kid you not that bike was wicked fast. Super quick and a shidt load of fun

    Miss it from time to time


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    Ya gotta put that video up again where ya blow away dem choppers. That shows how fast a twin can be.


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    You could tear down yer SE RG and build a 117cu out of it Holmes.
    It would be fun. Honest it would
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    They offered to build my 110 with bigger pistons, Basely heads, different cams and so on. So what would I have, nothing but an expensive bike that won't really do any more than what I do now when I'm touring plus my fuel mileage would be less. I've built past bikes to get the best HP I could get and guess what its expensive when they break. Done with that.
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    My 98 has more than 100 hp. so I guess I broke in already. Lol. ;) Nah, you have your ways, I have mine. That is what makes the world great. Yes?
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    Now all we need to do is let me change my user name and we all good. ;)
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    S&S makes a cvo granite 117 and 124 kit
    Sleeper looks stock.
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    Ya think it will get good fuel milage. and the back tires will last a long time ?:woot:
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    Today I received my boxes of goodies. Man, I got such a good deal. Better than Christmas!
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    uploadfromtaptalk1404914818367.jpg uploadfromtaptalk1404914829968.jpg A quick peek. Now time to get them cc'd and possibly have custom pistons made.
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    I would or rather sent heads out and had them done to match my pistols and cams before I stuck SE stuff on them.
    Not a fan of SE heads and cams.
    But that is just me.
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    I am not a huge fan of the SE cams but other things that I have used from them I have had good luck with. These 110 heads are well respected for what it is that I am doing so I made a good buy. As far as piston matching and that, I can about do what it is that I want and for many reasons. The reason I am looking at custom pistons is that there aren't a lot of people that can give me what I need. Is this the rout that I will go? Too early to say but it is an option.

    CC'ing the heads is just a necessary step. How else am I to ensure that this engine is as perfect as I can make it? Actually, IMO, anyone that doesn't take this step is short changing the build. Again, JMO

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