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Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by MUDFLAP, Nov 10, 2012.

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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Then you will understand why to go to a stroker crank.
    Nothin makes up for cubic inchs
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I thought we were talking about limited funds here?
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    Don't make no difference. Might as well do it right
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Then why were you asking for a used crank?:rolleyes:
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Think I may have asked for what I really didn't want.;)
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    Darkhorse Crank Works custom built 88 to 103 stroker crank, welded, balanced and blueprinted, $1,500.00 I have the bill right here in my hand.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    103 is a great motor.

    So you sent them your crank that was a 4" crank and got back a 4 3/8 crank and you did a 88 to 103 build
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    No they built a crank from scratch, they used SE flywheels heavy duty H beam connecting rods. True, welded, and balanced.
    Yes i built a stroker 103 from an 88. And it runs very good and hard, lots of torque, and it's carburatered. Have not put it on the dyno yet.
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    Did you hear this Mudflap
    Man told you another plan.
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    MUDFLAP New Member

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    I'm listen'n.

    Did you send them your crank? Kindah like a Core charge or whatever?
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    That is correct; primaries are completely different. However, the OP can purchase a 4.375" crank for his 88" motor, I erred in suggesting he could find one in a salvage yard, which is not impossible but highly improbable; brain fart.:gah::gah:

    JMHO but if the OP can afford to spend more on the crank, why not a 4.375" crank? Were I in his position, I would prefer to spend the money on the crank now and forego any other upgrades. Bore the cylinders .010" over, fit a new set of cast flat tops and deal with the damage in the cam chest. The result will be improved performance from increase displacement to 96" and he has a solid platform to build from in the future.

    The last time I spoke with John Dahmer at Hoban Brothers, I believe he said they could provide such a crank for about $1200. I would not forget to call R&R;either outfit can build a crank from wheels and pins, it's just machine work.
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    No I did not send them my crank, it was trashed when the balancer bearing and compensating sproket bolt let loose.
    Everything in side my motor is new Screaming Eagle stuff except the gear drive cams and they are andrews. I also had to do a new primary drive everything there except the clutch and starter. I spent some major money but it as current as a new fatboy or any other softail and it runs real good. My friend has an Indy shop and he helped me with the labor and ordering parts at dealer cost.

    here is the link to the screamin eagle pro race parts catalog.

    http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/downloads/Racing/US_SE12_Full.pdf

    page 63 has the cranks on it, I used the S/E 23727 fkywheels and had Darkhorse put on Heavy duty H-beam connecting rods. Mine is a "B" motor I believe yours is an "A" motor. You can get an SE crank that comes with heavy H-Beam connecting rods, they take it all apart to true and balance it is why I choice the cheaper flywheels and had the heavy rods instaled when they built it. Cost maybe close to the same. Either way you get a stroker crank. If your spliting the case you really should think about it. 88's and 95's are a thing of the past, doing the 103 will make it worth more, I added the six speed gear set also.
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    I would not go so far as to say the 95" builds are a "thing of the past". An 88" engine can be built up to 98" without any lower end work that will make and 110 torque numbers with good heads and matched cams; some will make more. Those engines will run with CVO 110s, so the 88" configuration is alive and well.

    HarleysLR approach to the rebuild makes a lot of sense. If an 88" lower unit grenades, spending the extra money to increase the stroke is a smart move.JMHO.
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    Exactly what I been trying to say.
    Even had a post S&S 88 to 106
    It was a hot bike baggers mag article for dec and jan issue
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    4.375" S&S crank with cylinders bored to 3.932"; easy to do wtih OEM parts as well.
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    And this is what I will do if I find that the rod bearings and or the crank run out is out of line when I take the top end off of mine. I am crossing my fingers that I don't but if I have to I will I guess. :rolleyes::rant::D
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    S&S makes some good stuff that's for sure. I do believe they are on the cutting edge of technology with there newer TC parts. The gear drive cams are top notch.
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    JOhnny just tell her the engine is out of spec
    and you need the SNS 124 kit, quit spending money
    on all the little parts from here and there, get a complete kit
    and make it a wheelie bagger....
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    Git a buddy with a S&S 124
    24 mpg
    He went and bought a 12 Ultra Limited
    Gonna sell the 124 on the 2000 EG
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    If it's a good price JB should buy it
    whomever tuned it is terrible.

    I got 35 at worst flogging my 124
    with cv51 , with cv4 it'd get 40's all day

    Most people tune them wrong especially
    super G carbs they always overjet and
    bikes run rich...

    then again with a 124 who cares about fuel mileage,
    you can run up to 130 mph fast and coast the next 10 miles...

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