darn heat

Just came in and the news is reporting that people closer to the fire are being evacuated now. Fire has tripled in size. Not good

The fire today is out of control and 0% contained. Getting really bad.
Picture from KPTV FOX local channel.



This is the main road we ride up. A beautiful area is ruined, horrible as it will be decades before it comes back.

We're safe here still far enough away. Still very sad for what's happening up there.

Oregon Governor declared a state of emergency for the fire. It is getting closer now. About 250 families are under evacuations. Showed families loading up the farm animals. Well never thought I would say this but sure wished it would rain.

Left coast has been dry, maybe y'all need more
co2 in the air... all those e-lectric cars and reduced cow
farts, lowered emissions, maybe ya screwed the pooch and moved yer rain out of the area

Good luck hope they figure it out.

Not hunters, they said target shooters but now I heard they are saying a smoker started it. I am sure the liberals would love it if it was caused by shooters.

Even better a shooter that smokes


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The fire has grown to almost 4,000 acres now. There biggest problem with fighting the fire has been the winds and the steep terrain. I heard that there is now over 700 fire fighters on the fire line. They are saying that the main road will be closed now for months do to slides causing boulders coming down.
There is cooler weather today that brought a little bit of rain but not enough to stop the fire. They are saying today with the cooler weather that its 30% contained. When the rains do return full time the slides will be really bad.
A fire in Northern CA has burned 150 homes and businesses in Weed, I'm sure Joshbob knows where that is.

wasnt long ago I think about 07 we had fires in the summer here without rain, dry spell, they shut down the Pepsi 400 and moved it to Oct.

Burned a ton of land, most of it needed burning, lots of scrub over growth etc.

A month later the palmetto shrubs were coming back out, wild looking
green plant growing out of a charred black field.

Fires kill off a ton of bugs that kill trees and plants, without
them the forests will die from the infestations, the over growth
is mismanaged by the lefty proggy west coast tree huggers.

Controlled burns are needed, otherwise you get this crap.

You don't understand anything about the forests out here. Do you know how long it takes a Douglas fir tree to grow back after a fire. They have to manually replant otherwise it could be 50 years for it to fully return. They manage the forest here very well now with logging then replanting. There was a fire here in the coast range mountains called the Tillamook burn. That happened when I was to young to remember it. It was an enormous fire that destroyed a whole forest. They didn't replant for years and the underbrush took over and it still is so thick that you can't walk through it. I know we tried hunting there and it was virtually hopeless. When they log any area now they they are now required to come back in and clear out the stuff that was logged and they have big burn piles when the weather permits or they will come in and grind it up into sawdust or bark chips. A fire also destroys the whole water shed system of an area and kills even the trout in the streams. Maybe a fire in your area is good but not here.

So right now OR has an uncontrolled burn doing the same
damage without any ability to manage it and that's somehow better?

Controlled fires in any area are good, if properly managed
otherwise you get what you have now, same as so cal
burn up 100 homes worth a mil each because nobody
manages the old growth properly.

Don't care if it takes 50 or 25 years to grow back
controlled burns save homes, lives...

Here ya go, even yer left wing Tokie the Bear
says prescribed burns are good, it's your government
so you should trust it!

http://www.fs.fed.us/fire/management/rx.html

You mean like they thought they were doing in Yellowstone when it burned a few years ago. Yea, controlled burn they thought, good for the land until it was so out of control they had to go in and fight it. You ever been to Yellowstone after that fire, my god man mega areas were burned and way to much. You can't go in and do controlled burns in forests they get out of control way to easily. If they didn't start fighting this fire to many homes would be destroyed because the east winds were driving the winds from the east to the west directly towards the homes and the town of Estacada. Were not talking about a bunch of hillsides with just grass were talking about forests with 100-200 foot tall trees that are dryer than a match stick.

Keep that smoky the bear philosophy back east we don't need it. So tell me how do you do a controlled burn in areas like this. This is an areas we ride through all the time.