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  1. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Alex obviously you have not shopped at Wally World for socks.:roflmao:

    And speak softly cause the *****s will here yea and then there goes more jobs overseas.
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    Yep Alex we'll agree to disagree
    1) I am not enamored with BMW, just the facts a large amount of BMW owners are former HD owners, when someone leaves HD for another brand it's almost ALWAYS BMW, again it's not my numbers, it's the real world
    2) HD is not an never has been about quality, and I didn't say American Only, it's an American Icon, resurrected more than once from the trash bin, AMF, and then the employee buyout, because it's quality had gotten so bad and its cash gone, without AMF there is no HD and many say those were some of the worst years Has HD improved, yes, but your point was people buy quality and your example was HD.

    Nobody I know of that owns an HD did so because they wanted quality first, They wanted and HD, they want to be seen on an HD and that's worldwide. HD's quality is no better than Metric bikes, yet they sell a lot of them. BTW they don't sell a half million bikes a year anymore, production was cut big time, in order to maintain price points by restricting available units. Otherwise it would be like a car market.

    Now I'm not saying HD is bad so don't misunderstand my point, HD purchases and sock have nothing in common and the comparison is a straw man argument,

    US buyers as a whole do not look to quality first, they look for price, and then at the quality, and I'm speaking as a whole, not individuals within the group if not Wal-Mart wouldn't exist.

    If it was all about high quality for the purchase Mopar and GM would be gone, wait, they should be,
    hotroadking, Nov 29, 2012
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    I like my Harley. It's been more fun and more dependable than I ever expected.
    charlie46, Nov 29, 2012
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  5. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    And a big plus one here:D
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    Would ya buy me one for Christmas.......:D
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    cardboard Well-Known Member

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    The newer Harleys are really good as you can tell.
    cardboard, Nov 29, 2012
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  8. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    When I had my Mac Tools Business I would take a lot of tool boxes in trade and one box I always thought was of good quality and stood the riggers of professional use was the Waterloo. They are also USA and make boxes for Craftsmen and others.
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    I don't know what others have done, but I've owned many diff. brands of bikes. Yamahonki's (many), Triumphs, BMWs, even a Ducati Multistrada. All have let me down one way or another, some devastatingly. My opinions are based solely on what I've experienced.

    My first Harley was a 5 year old 1975 FL shovel with 38,000 miles already on it. I rode it another 230,000 miles with only minor repairs. My '85 FL went even farther without needing a rebuild. My current FLH has 112,000 totally trouble-free miles that defies whatever you've heard about them. Quality products last longer, period.

    As you can see, I don't buy new machines very often, but now I get the best when I do buy. Making something last many years is not very difficult if you care about it. Conversely, a moron can break any new machine, but defects do happen.

    H-D's 2011 worldwide sales was over 382,000 bikes sold in a very down market. All other brands are still trying to unload 2010 models.
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    Yes they are. Ever heard of Homak?
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  11. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    When I had my Mac Tools Business I would take a lot of tool boxes in trade and one box I always thought was of good quality and stood the riggers of professional use was the Waterloo. They are also USA and make boxes for Craftsmen and others.
    FLHTbiker, Nov 29, 2012
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    My current FLH has 112,000 totally trouble-free miles that defies whatever you've heard about them. Quality products last longer, period.
    Alex did'nt you say you helped spec your engine out when it was built at moco ? I know a few guy who ride the TC & don't hammer on it one got just under 2k miles & cam bearings went scraped the whole engine hd covered it I know of a quite a few TC 88 that have just been bad from the get go , my 03 was great till i had the cam plate changed & no matter who or where it was redone it just never lasted , i sold it for two reasons cam plate & my knees , But I sure got tired of paying / or just buying a new plate & cams love my EVO
    cowboy, Nov 29, 2012
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    I think that even the AMF years produced pretty good bikes. There are many of them still on the road, including mine. Yup, I'm in the middle of a rebuild, but that was due to a bad, dishonest mechanic. Basically, I'd have to conclude that HarleyDavidsons have always been a very solidly built machine, and if the owner keeps the maintenance up on them, they will last indefinitely.
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    I wanted a Harley so I could get lai...lucky. But then again, I'm married. Sighhhhh. :gah:
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    :roflmao:
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    I owned AMF Harleys. They were a great bike. Run the wheels off them.
    AMF was a good company and introduced new models to Harley.
    AMF saved the Harley name. But people ain't appreciative for that.
    AMF put a japaneese carb on the bike.
    cardboard, Nov 30, 2012
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    1st: You can't compare tube socks to a $25k motorcycle.
    2nd: a lot of the parts on the newer H-D's are made overseas. Prolly most of the parts that fail prematurley. Hummm...
    This is partly the reason for which I love the older bikes. My bikes don't have all those fancy do-dads that fail. No ipods, radio, fuel injection,etc.
    Just a motor, brakes and 2 wheels. That's the way I like it. I know how everything works and I can fix anything that may go bad at any time and I have all the tools I need to do the work.
    Tommyc, Nov 30, 2012
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    My radio has a 5 yr extended warranty on it. If it fails they simply pull it out and stick a new one in. I like my Radio, so does my OL.
    Fuel injected will outdue a carb any day. Fuel Injection if the way of the future.
    A fuel injected will not have the problems of a carb that a carb will with ethanol fuel.
    Put over 100,000 on FI bikes with no problems. FI don't have chokes.
    FI you turn the key on and press the start button.
    The new brakes will stop you 3 times faster.
    The new frames has been due for a long time and they are much better.
    The motors has a better motor mount system on them to hold them stable.
    Got 14,000 on my 11 Limited 180-65-16 rear tire with the multi compound
    Most of my riding is two up.
    got 25,000 on my brakes so far.
    New motors produce more power and more torque from the factory.
    The 6 gallon gas tanks rocks, as well the 6 speed tranny's
    They changed the gearing on the 11 bikes and up so they will go in 6th gear at a lower rpm
    But most folks still lug their engines trying to run them in the wrong gear at the wrong RPM
    There is so much that has changed for the good on the new bikes I can't even remember all of it
    But you continue to fight it. Somebody needs that job to keep trying to convience us since we have already bought a new bike and we know the difference. We broke down saved the money and paid the payments.
    Bottom line. Nothin rides like a new bike.
    cardboard, Nov 30, 2012
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    Ouch~! Does anyone have some ice for my BURN?
    Tommyc, Nov 30, 2012
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  20. FLHTbiker

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    If yea like the older bikes buy em, ride em and don't complain to those of us who ride a newer bike. Same for those who ride newer bikes don't complain or try to tell the guys riding older bikes to get a newer one.
    A few of use rode across the USA from one coast to another last year and site seeing along the way. 8500 trouble free miles on one trip plus what we rode during the year then another 16000 miles so far this year and no break downs.
    Never can understand why someone says mine is better because of this or that ride what you like and I'll ride what I like and that will be that and we'll all enjoy the ride.
    FLHTbiker, Nov 30, 2012
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    I'm not complaining or saying mine is better or telling anyone to buy something different. Sorry. I'm just saying what i like. If I could afford a newer bike I'd prolly be saying I prefer them but I can't so I'm not. :rocket_bike::rocket_bike::rocket_bike: Can't we all just get along?
    Tommyc, Nov 30, 2012
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