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Discussion in 'Pull up a chair and sit for a spell' started by badinfluence63, May 15, 2015.

  1. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    AMF has filed chapter 11 now several times. The Italians owned 50% of them for awhile. They have had some very troubling years sense their Harley years. They have been bought by big investment companies. Sure glad the people in HD bought them back.
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    Last sentence says it all. I'll take my H-D warts and all over other bikes I have owned or ridden.
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    badinfluence63 Well-Known Member

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    That was a difference maker.

    Leaps and bounds difference between my 1983 (second year of non AMF) and 2015.
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    Amen.


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    badinfluence63 Well-Known Member

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    By virtue of people being born there would always be a cycle of new riders...duh.
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    Well I'm sticking around a while so someone else can wait !


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    First off, this isn't directed at anyone here but sometimes I think this motorcycling thing is a lot more complicated than it needs to be. I don't know much about the old guard, I rode an EVO, which automatically placed me squarely in the yuppie movement of the day, some guys were all right but there was a lot of that See no Evo, Hear No Evo, Ride No Evo going around. I rode a FXRS, great bike, loved it but it wasn't cool like a Softail, so the Softail guys wouldn't wave at us and there were a lot more of them than us, the touring guys weren't too bad, they had pretty well figured out what they wanted in a bike. The non Harley crowd really didn't think too much of us and I've hear a ton of Harley jokes over the years. I've got a few good friends that I ride with and that's enough camaraderie for me. I know the talent pool has been watered down over the years and the days of someone pulling over to help another rider are getting rarer and rarer. A few years ago my wife and I were in Montana, riding to Sturgis through a construction zone, no shoulder, dirt all dug up, a bit of a rough ride when one of the legs on the tent trailer that I was pulling dropped down, hooked the ground and just bout tipped the trailer over. I got the bike stopped, got over as far to the right as I could and proceeded to repair the trailer on the roadside. Three different groups of bikes passed us by, not one person stopped, we're out in the middle of nowhere, finally a Montana State trooper comes up on us and I get him to have the traffic give us enough room so I can finish the repair without getting killed. Nice guy that trooper was. Things have changed over the years, heck the world has changed and for the canucks in the crowd, Alberta elected a NDP [read that socialist] Government..there's change. I think AMF's infusion of capital probably kept Harley from going under but their lack of understanding of how a motorcycle company operated and their resulting lack of interest gave us the bikes that turned a lot of folks off of Harleys. I like some of Harley's bikes. I think that the motor company has it's head up its ass in a lot of ways, especially in some warranty claims being refused. The new better heeled crowd that ride bikes has made it somewhat easier for me to get a motel room now so there's a bit of a positive. I don't do the bro thing, I don't have the thousand yard stare, I just get on the bike and ride. I see tons and tons of Twin Cams out there and guys and gals having fun on them..They're pretty good bikes, I like mine, but when I get on the old EVO, there's just that magic when you get on a sweet running older bike. I can't explain it. Some day, I might just try to find a good running shovel to see what the fuss was all about
  8. kenfuzed

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    A good running Shovel? Yes that would be something - haha.
    All kidding aside, I don't hate on any model or rider. I ride what I love and love what I ride. I've ridden Pans, Shovels, Ironheads, Evos, Twin Cams, and even a chopped Triumph and Kawasaki here and there. I've had great (and terrifying) moments on many.

    Regarding those who ride, I've ridden with many different types and styles of people but I don't completely identify with any one group. Maybe that's why I tend to ride solo. I will say that I don't get hipsters (the latest incarnation of yuppies) but I'm sure at one time or another I too have been categorized by others.

    Speaking of which... many decades ago I walked out of a Harley dealership after a sales douche insinuated that I looked more like the child of a rockabily-punk rocker and hippy couple gone wrong, than someone who would buy a Harley from them. Maybe I did, but I just didn't look like what he considered a "biker type" despite already being an actual Harley rider. Perhaps some day those hipsters or yuppies may morph into a legitimate biker culture (okay, maybe not many of them lol). Regardless, I hope Harley is still around or remembered for the next generation of riders to become ridiculed :p.
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    Yuppism... is not definable entirely by income or class. Rather, it is a late-20th century cultural phenomenon of self-absorbed young professionals, earning good pay, enjoying the cultural attractions of sophisticated urban life and thought, and generally out of touch with, indeed antithetical to, most of the challenges and concerns of a far less well-off and more parochial Middle America. For the yuppie male a well-paying job in tech, law, finance, academia or consulting in a cultural hub, hip fashion, cool appearance, studied poise, elite education, proper recreation and fitness and general proximity to liberal-thinking elites, especially of the more rarefied sort in the arts, are the mark of a real man.

    Being a yuppy does not mean you ride an EVO. A yuppy tends to be a shallow,superficial bullshitter who puts on aires and tries to impress not with his ability to be a man of his word, dependable, honest or sincere but rather with his affluence. All about himself and is self absorbed.

    They tend to gravitate towards trends to impress. HD became their trend of choice coinciding with the birth of the EVO and still to this day. Hence the assless chaps and fingerless gloved biker hollowen costume that seems to be a must for the typical yuppy.

    Another f*cked up trend is buy a HD get a MC patch, even if you have to start one. Last year I never seen so many no name Johnny come lately never heard of MC's. What a goof.

    Hey live and let live. I'm just bummed because something that has been a big part of my life has turned to sh*t. I am content being on the outside looking in. I did try to integrate. I tried for 2 years. I can't. The new mentality is too painful,lol.
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  10. FLHTbiker

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    Shoot all this talk about yuppies, hipsters or what ever wonder what people call me as all I want to do is ride. I like different kinds of rides and after my child support ended in 99 I was finally able to afford my first Harley. So was never a rich urban type but rode used bikes. Yep, finally in 99 bought my first new Harley a new twin cam and yep had the dreaded cam issue and had to be rebuilt. Never owned any Harley previous to that 99'Twin Cam so can't say anything bad or good about them.
    Man the Goldwingers I knew gave me a ration of bull sheet after I bought my first Harley. I had to sell a Yamaha Royal Star to afford it (Sleepy remembers that one as he showed us all how a Harley moves out leaving all the Royal Star riders in the dust back in around 96).
    After a rebuilt motor on the 99 I really got the Harley bite and have never looked back, even sold my used 89 Goldwing leaving those wingers to their bitterness.
    There are all kinds of people who like to ride. I'm one of them, been riding sense I was 14 years old. Don't know all those fancy words or even what they mean sometimes, just like to jump on my bike and ride.
    I've slowed down a lot sense my early days and riding the corners at full speed doesn't seem to be so important anymore as it does with many and no longer care what they think.
    Don't know what others call me maybe just a motorcycle rider.
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    Hmmm Old Fart? :p
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    Gentleman Rider.
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    And when your wife is with you a gentleman escort rider:)
  14. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Ha, not what the wife calls me. :eek:

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