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Harley Oil, Any Good?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Tech Talk' started by HellBoy, Nov 9, 2009.

  1. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I would move and get myself a condo that has its own garage.
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    or move to another town
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    Wish I could, but work keeps me here. That, and an abundance of good lookin' single women ;)
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    Hellboy, you need to hook yourself up with a rich women that has a garage and move in with her. :D
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    now your talkin!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
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    I'm workin' on it.
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    Naw... just get her to let ya have her garage....n come over when you gotta change yer oil...:roflmao:
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    I picked up a quart of Amsoil 20 W 50 yesterday at an INDY shop. They didn't have time to change it for me. They use the same oil for the gears as well, but Amsoil's people recommended this: " The Harley part number for the alternate is 99887-84. Replace is with AMSOIL SVT, 75W110 Gear Lube"

    Since the shop didn't carry this type of Amsoil, I'm going to order it on line and then let my dealer change it, since I need one or two other things looked at anyway. I vaguely recall either the Amsoil guy or the HD service manager ( I forget) mention something about 6 speed tranny's needing friction modifiers because some synthetics may cause slippage. I hope the SVT and the Amsoil 20 W 50 will help, since I am getting a little clutch slippage. One reason I'm going to let HD change my oil is to have them look at the clutch plates. If they''re not worn, I'll have them do another clutch adjustment and probably won't have to pay for it if they messed it up a little in the first place.
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    If'n you had a small drain pan, a small funnel some disposalable diapers. Some plastic bags to put everything in.

    Look in the manual that came with yer bike, It will show you where the motor drain plug is.

    You could drain yer oil in the drain pan.
    Pull yer own oil filer. Wipe everything down with paper towels.
    The diapers are to keep everything off the floor.
    Put just a small amount of oil in the oil filter and screw it on and git some o rings for the drain plug. The Ace Hardware and or the HD dealer carryies these o rings.
    So you can make sure when you look at the oring that if its damaged you can replace it.
    Put the oil back in yer motor and crank yer bike and let it sit for a few minutes and check the oil.
    Take the drain pan and funnel and drain it back into the bottles that you poured the oil from.
    I like saving Gallon bottles for this too.
    Now you can take the old oil and old oil filter to any auto parts stores, or
    folks that takes oil.
    take yer bike out on the street and git something to spray on the area where the oil filter is and spray it down with water.
    This way you can change yer own oil and save a lot of money.
    And its a lot easier then you realize.
  10. FLHTbiker

    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    I doubt very much the oil is the reason for the clutch slipping. But continual switching around with the oils is not a good practice. I've been using one brand in all my bikes and have never had an issue. I just happen to use Redline, amsoil is also a very good oil but stick to one type. There are many other factors that could also cause a clutch to slip One thing I don't do is use engine oil weight in the tranny.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    To add what cardboard said I also take a bit of oil and apply it to the rubber seal on the new oil filter. I also take a small thin piece of cardboard and place it up under the filter before I remove it. Most of the excess oil that drains down will drain into the cardboard and out into a small container placed on the ground. Just helps keep from a bigger mess on the floor.
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    I was gonna talk about the cardboard to go under the filer but everybody keeps wanting to call me on the phone.
    Guess I'm gonna have to cut it off.

    changing from different types of oil ain't gonna cause a clutch to slip.
    Going from organic to synthetic and back a few times too many can cause sludge and gum to buildup on the clutch plates.
    I use synthetic oil in my primary and have never had a problem.
    if you want to use what the dealer uses put formula plus in it.
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    FLHTbiker Moderator Staff Member

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    When switching from different brands it is more likely to create problems when you switch back and forth from Dyno oil to Syn type oils. But still sticking to one brand and staying with it is the best practice. If you use Dyno oil for the engine stay with it and change often.
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    Bought me a new Scavenger oil change system. Will use on my new bike as well. it completely removes all old oil when changing oil. It flushes the motor and lines out totally leaving no "old Dirty oil" in the motor at all. i paid like a 100. for it
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    When talkin to the stealer about doin big bore kit he wants to put dino oil in for first 500 miles, any thoughts?
    I've got Amsoil syn 20W-50 in everything now and noticed decent drop in engine temps (5-10* max) everything else has been good!
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    It doesn't make any difference!

    And I know its just my OPINION, BUTT I got to say it.
    I think the oil scavenger system is a total waste of money.
    Don't know why everybody thinks they got to git everydrop of oil out of they bike.
    If you keep yer oil and filter changed every 3000 miles the bike is gonna last longer than you would expect.
    When I used to have my 64 Pan Head. I only changed the oil 1 time a year.
    And I rode it forever on Dino oil.
    People wake up !:rant:
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    Me thinks Cardboard is gettin back to his old self!!

    But why dino oil for just the first 500m?
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    Talked to the technical dept with Amsoil and Mobile 1 and somebody else about this same question.
    All of them told me it doesn't make any difference.
    What they said is when you put the motorcycle together, put some oil on the piston skirts.
    So its just a personal preference:gah:
    When I build my engine I used synthetic Amsoil or was it Mobile 1 I got from Walley World.
    And I run the snot out of my bike.

    Chucktx probaly remembers. I dun forgot.
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    mobil 1............... as it was what i had in the shop.......
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    I've had mechanics at the HD shop tell me that putting Dyno oil for the first 500 miles will help break it in better and then use Syn after that. Bet Hotroadking will have the exact answer. Something if I remember right that Dyno oil allows for more wear. Carboard will probably pull his hair out which is not abnormal, but I have heard that many times. I've done that myself and my first oil change there were a lot of metal shavings on the oil plug. I run Redline now and like it very much.

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