Look what we git for bailin out GM

I agree with you on this CB!

Cowboy, FLHT, what does KIA really have to do with GM??? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!!! No one is disagreeing that what GM is doing is a good "business" decision, but only for themselves. This is bad for the American people because it will put more AMERICANS out of work!!!!! CB is right on, we, (the American people) bailed them out in order for them to survive, and this is how we are repaid???? Sorry Cowboy but two plants that they have here in the U.S. is peanuts!!! They are not an American company so the money that is spent on them really doesn't stay here... I bet this argument would be way different if GM announced that they were moving the engine making to China now wouldn't it??? What is the difference if they are moving to China, Mexico, Cuba or where ever??? The point is it is another American company that is turning its back on its people but still expect "their people" to bail them out when they are in trouble........!!!!!!!!

Yeah, so what is your point????

If I taught a business class it would have to have common sense to go with it.
If I bail you out and you screw me. I have no use for you any longer.

You lost me helpin you out period.

Like my Grandma said when I needed help on gittin a new truck.
Son this is yer truck, you pay for it. If I have to pay anything on it.
Don't come and expect me to help you again. You burned yer good luck with me. :gah:

And my grandma was Old business school. She probaly had more business then anybody I know.:rant:

Right on CB....And again FLHT misses the point that I think that this "business decision" is good for GM, but bad for the country....:gah: I guess since I am a "Business Student" I guess it means that I think that I have to think that "all" business decisions are good........

I'd be voting with my wallet...wanted a small truck for getting around in the snow..went with the only north american manufacturer that didn't hold the cap out..that's two Fords for us now..[and I was a die hard GM guy] I won't get into the union debate..I've seen the good and the bad of it all from an insider's perspective.[union] I really enjoy not being tied to the dogma anymore..show up for work spin wrenches and make malt. Ford makes Fusions in Mexico. My Ranger was made in the Twin Cities Plant..old school truck..too bad they're shutting the plant down. GM is going to have to work hard to get my business now.

I got a really good deal on my Fusion...not necessarily happy that it was built south of of the border, but hey, what do you do......I have never been a GM person. In fact the only GM product I will ever own is the one I will inherit from dad. Yeah it is a shame that they are going to shut down the Ranger Plant, going to put a lot of people out of work here in the Twin Cities.

I was a Die Hard chevy msn till 97 when I bought a Ford
I have a van and truck SMS my wife has a truck
She used to drive a silverado
And likes the Ford a lot better

If they didn't take money from you or I, I would have no problem with this......but the cold fact is that they did and now they want to take jobs away from our people:gah::gah:

I am glad that you think that it is good "business" decision...I just don't agree....Again, good for GM, bad for the American people that were forced to bail them out......bad for those people that are going to lose their job......Business isn't 100% about just money....it has a lot, if not more to do with people.........

Put yourself in the employees position FLHT, how would you respond to this if you were an employee of the engine building aspect of GM?????

No replacement for the Ranger in North America...the new Ranger sold elsewhere is is 90 per cent the size of the F 150 so we're gonna get the F 150. The old ranger was in need of updates to be sure and shame on Ford for not doing that but bang for the buck there isn't a 4X4 pickup that even comes close for knocking around in bad weather..read that snow up this way. I think Ford is dropping the ball on this one

hope you're right...the old Ranger is absolutely fabulous in deep snow. GM updated the old S Trucks a number of years ago...they did a crummy job. [had a Chey S10...not a lot of power but great in high snow] I'd rather have a 80's designed Ranger than the Colorado or the Dakota.

We jump on Ford, Ford didn't borrow any money. Hello.
We borrowed money from the Chineese which has not been paid back to help give to GM to bail them out. GM should of found a way to deal with the Union before they took the money.
Don't understand why this Super Big deal was over looked even by the White House.
Want to know why, the Union is the Mafia and they are into too many folks in the political worlds pockets. Another reason I said a congressress person is limted to 2 4 yr terms.

My sister had a 91' S10 2x4 and it was an OK truck. It was a 5 speed. I however hated the S10 4x4's..They were so undergeared it wasn't funny...This is my first truck so I do not have a decent reference... All I know is Ford didn't take money and they are killing the competition......